From owner-cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Jan 1 23:28:33 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: cvs-all@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B714E16A4CE; Sat, 1 Jan 2005 23:28:33 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mail.elvandar.org (redqueen.elvandar.org [217.148.169.55]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C22EA43D2F; Sat, 1 Jan 2005 23:28:32 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from remko@elvandar.org) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail.elvandar.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 764BE29545E; Sun, 2 Jan 2005 00:28:31 +0100 (CET) Received: from mail.elvandar.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (redqueen.elvandar.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 11664-20; Sun, 2 Jan 2005 00:28:30 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <41D73221.1040702@elvandar.org> Date: Sun, 02 Jan 2005 00:28:33 +0100 From: Remko Lodder User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0 (Macintosh/20041206) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Niclas Zeising References: <200501012115.j01LF8tZ053864@repoman.freebsd.org> <20050101215234.GO761@zaphod.nitro.dk> <20050101215750.GH50770@submonkey.net> <20050101222238.GP761@zaphod.nitro.dk> <20050101222621.GI50770@submonkey.net> <41D72B6C.3080109@n00b.apagnu.se> In-Reply-To: <41D72B6C.3080109@n00b.apagnu.se> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at elvandar.org cc: cvs-all@FreeBSD.org cc: Ceri Davies cc: cvs-doc@FreeBSD.org cc: "Simon L. Nielsen" cc: doc-committers@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: cvs commit: www/en index.xsl www/share/sgml includes.misc.sgml includes.misc.xsl X-BeenThere: cvs-all@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: CVS commit messages for the entire tree List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 01 Jan 2005 23:28:34 -0000 Niclas Zeising wrote: > Ceri Davies wrote: > >> On Sat, Jan 01, 2005 at 11:22:38PM +0100, Simon L. Nielsen wrote: >> >>> On 2005.01.01 21:57:50 +0000, Ceri Davies wrote: >>> >>>> On Sat, Jan 01, 2005 at 10:52:35PM +0100, Simon L. Nielsen wrote: >>>> >>>>> On 2005.01.01 21:15:08 +0000, Ceri Davies wrote: >>>>> > > [snip out commit message] > >>>>> >>>>> I don't really like this, mainly because there is no link to the >>>>> mirror list, so the main ftp site(s) will likely get hammered more. >>>>> If we want to make it simpler for people to find the download area, I >>>>> would rather have the link to where.html is made more prominet (and >>>>> perhaps even being called "Download"), and then perhaps improved >>>>> where.html. >>>> >>>> >>>> I had considered that, but I really really want something that I can >>>> just click on without having to read anything first. >>> >>> >>> _Personally_ I think the list in the "Distribution Sites" section of >>> where.html is fine for that purpose, of course it's one click away, >>> but you can still just get to the files rather quickly without the >>> need to read the rest of the page. >>> >>> >>>> I think that ISC can take the beating, but if they say otherwise... >>> >>> >>> I don't actually know about the ISC mirror, but I know that the >>> TDC(/Danish) part of the mirror get a pretty hefty beating around >>> release time. >>> >>> >>>> Since this commit it has been suggested to me that we have a method of >>>> automatically determining a user's closest mirror, and I'm looking at >>>> ways of doing that right now. If you insist then I can back out until >>>> that is done, but I'd rather not. >>> >>> >>> No, I very intentionally did not say the words "back out" in my last >>> mail :-). The load of the mirrors is most likely only really relevant >>> around release time, so there is no big rush in that regard. >>> >>> I still think the change is a regression, but if the popular opinion >>> is otherwise, it's not something I'm going to bitch more about :-). >> >> >> >> OK, well let's wait for some popular opinion then ;-) >> I'll continue looking in to the closest mirror business in the meantime. >> > > Just a suggestion: Why not make a big "download" button, and then prompt > the user to select either country or mirror from a drop-down list or > something to the like. It is good that it is easy to find the bits, you > shouldn't need to look around too much (people are lazy by nature ;) ). > But if you have clicked the download button and then only need to select > mirror/country, it's not so much extra looking to do, I think. > Just my oppinion as a "normal" user. > Cheers! > //Niclas I think i need to agree with this: Personally i would like to see something like that or some anchors to the location (with a short name for your country like UK,US,NL,BE,DE,SE,DK,LI and whatever country's there are ;)) which you can click on and then get an overview for the sites that can be used for your location (since there might be more servers in the target country) and perhaps an alternative or so. Cheers, -- Kind regards, Remko Lodder ** remko@elvandar.org Reporter DSINET ** remko@DSINet.org Founder Tienervaders ** remko@tienervaders.org FreeBSD Documentation Project ** remko@FreeBSD.org