From owner-freebsd-current Wed Jul 30 00:30:48 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id AAA15808 for current-outgoing; Wed, 30 Jul 1997 00:30:48 -0700 (PDT) Received: from genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au (genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au [129.127.96.120]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id AAA15802; Wed, 30 Jul 1997 00:30:42 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from msmith@localhost) by genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au (8.8.5/8.7.3) id RAA19811; Wed, 30 Jul 1997 17:00:28 +0930 (CST) From: Michael Smith Message-Id: <199707300730.RAA19811@genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au> Subject: Re: pccard and -current; a long way to go. :-( In-Reply-To: <199707300710.AAA14949@hub.freebsd.org> from Jeffrey Hsu at "Jul 30, 97 00:10:13 am" To: hsu@FreeBSD.ORG (Jeffrey Hsu) Date: Wed, 30 Jul 1997 17:00:27 +0930 (CST) Cc: current@hub.freebsd.org X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL28 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Jeffrey Hsu stands accused of saying: > fine with a.out. But, they are neglecting to consider all the > tools we don't have because we don't use ELF. Now that we have Could you enumerate a few of these tools, for the edification of those of us that are ignorant of same? > I see this problem too in conjunction with language tools. My next > JDK port which I'm working on now (not sure if I should do a stable > 1.1.4 port or just skip ahead to 1.2, neither of which the Linux > people have yet) would happily use ELF if it solves the dlsym(RTLD_NEXT) > problem (namely, we don't have it) and it also eliminates a bunch > of kludges in the Java interpreter code that I have to make because > we prepend underscores and the rest of the world doesn't. RTLD_NEXT would help the Willows TWIN stuff as well. So I guess there you have two; win16/win32 crossdevelopment and Java support would both benefit from a move to the ELF toolchain. -- ]] Mike Smith, Software Engineer msmith@gsoft.com.au [[ ]] Genesis Software genesis@gsoft.com.au [[ ]] High-speed data acquisition and (GSM mobile) 0411-222-496 [[ ]] realtime instrument control. (ph) +61-8-8267-3493 [[ ]] Unix hardware collector. "Where are your PEZ?" The Tick [[