From owner-freebsd-security@freebsd.org Wed Nov 11 19:25:06 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-security@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9736DA2B273; Wed, 11 Nov 2015 19:25:06 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jmg@gold.funkthat.com) Received: from gold.funkthat.com (gate2.funkthat.com [208.87.223.18]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "gold.funkthat.com", Issuer "gold.funkthat.com" (not verified)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 576501259; Wed, 11 Nov 2015 19:25:05 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jmg@gold.funkthat.com) Received: from gold.funkthat.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gold.funkthat.com (8.14.5/8.14.5) with ESMTP id tABJP3SG007949 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Wed, 11 Nov 2015 11:25:03 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jmg@gold.funkthat.com) Received: (from jmg@localhost) by gold.funkthat.com (8.14.5/8.14.5/Submit) id tABJP34S007948; Wed, 11 Nov 2015 11:25:03 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jmg) Date: Wed, 11 Nov 2015 11:25:03 -0800 From: John-Mark Gurney To: Ben Woods Cc: Bryan Drewery , Dag-Erling =?iso-8859-1?Q?Sm=F8rgrav?= , "freebsd-current@freebsd.org" , "freebsd-security@freebsd.org" Subject: Re: OpenSSH HPN Message-ID: <20151111192503.GT65715@funkthat.com> References: <86io5a9ome.fsf@desk.des.no> <20151110175216.GN65715@funkthat.com> <56428C84.8050600@FreeBSD.org> <20151111075930.GR65715@funkthat.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 9.1-PRERELEASE amd64 X-PGP-Fingerprint: 54BA 873B 6515 3F10 9E88 9322 9CB1 8F74 6D3F A396 X-Files: The truth is out there X-URL: http://resnet.uoregon.edu/~gurney_j/ X-Resume: http://resnet.uoregon.edu/~gurney_j/resume.html X-TipJar: bitcoin:13Qmb6AeTgQecazTWph4XasEsP7nGRbAPE X-to-the-FBI-CIA-and-NSA: HI! HOW YA DOIN? can i haz chizburger? User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.21 (2010-09-15) X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.2.7 (gold.funkthat.com [127.0.0.1]); Wed, 11 Nov 2015 11:25:03 -0800 (PST) X-BeenThere: freebsd-security@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: "Security issues \[members-only posting\]" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 11 Nov 2015 19:25:06 -0000 Ben Woods wrote this message on Wed, Nov 11, 2015 at 16:27 +0800: > On Wednesday, 11 November 2015, John-Mark Gurney wrote: > > > Ben Woods wrote this message on Wed, Nov 11, 2015 at 15:40 +0800: > > > I have to agree that there are cases when the NONE cipher makes sense, > > and > > > it is up to the end user to make sure they know what they are doing. > > > > > > Personally I have used it at home to backup my old FreeBSD server (which > > > does not have AESNI) over a dedicated network connection to a backup > > server > > > using rsync/ssh. Since it was not possible for anyone else to be on that > > > local network, and the server was so old it didn't have AESNI and would > > > soon be retired, using the NONE cipher sped up the transfer > > significantly. > > > > If you have a trusted network, why not just use nc? > > Honest answer: ignorance of how I can use netcat together with rsync. A quick google of rsync nc, turned up method 2 & 4 from: https://rsync.samba.org/firewall.html -- John-Mark Gurney Voice: +1 415 225 5579 "All that I will do, has been done, All that I have, has not."