From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Jan 16 14:44:07 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id OAA03342 for questions-outgoing; Fri, 16 Jan 1998 14:44:07 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from allegro.lemis.com (allegro.lemis.com [192.109.197.134]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id OAA03241; Fri, 16 Jan 1998 14:43:32 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from grog@lemis.com) Received: from freebie.lemis.com (freebie.lemis.com [192.109.197.137]) by allegro.lemis.com (8.8.7/8.8.5) with ESMTP id JAA03951; Sat, 17 Jan 1998 09:07:51 +1030 (CST) Received: (from grog@localhost) by freebie.lemis.com (8.8.8/8.8.7) id JAA22469; Sat, 17 Jan 1998 09:07:51 +1030 (CST) (envelope-from grog) Message-ID: <19980117090750.07770@lemis.com> Date: Sat, 17 Jan 1998 09:07:50 +1030 From: Greg Lehey To: Ruslan Shevchenko Cc: Das Devaraj , freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG, freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Is FreeBSD UNIX? References: <34BE2D83.36F7DA23@Shevchenko.kiev.ua> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.84e In-Reply-To: <34BE2D83.36F7DA23@Shevchenko.kiev.ua>; from Ruslan Shevchenko on Thu, Jan 15, 1998 at 05:38:44PM +0200 Organization: LEMIS, PO Box 460, Echunga SA 5153, Australia Phone: +61-8-8388-8286 Fax: +61-8-8388-8725 Mobile: +61-41-739-7062 WWW-Home-Page: http://www.lemis.com/~grog Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk On Thu, Jan 15, 1998 at 05:38:44PM +0200, Ruslan Shevchenko wrote: > Das Devaraj wrote: > >> (This is _reluctantly_ sent to freeBSD-isp also, in case the >> commercial folks - ISPs - see it in a different light). >> >> Can I _legally_ claim that my box running FreeBSD is UNIX? >> Or should it phrased that the OS is a _UNIX clone_. Note that > > clone. UNIX is register trademark of X/Open.www.xopen.org As used in computing, a clone is a copy made to imitate the original. That definition doesn't fit FreeBSD. It's more like a disowned member of the family. >> this has nothing to do with the actual power of FreeBSD. What >> happened after the UNIX name was bought from AT?T by Novell (is >> it public domain now?) >> >> Also is there a minimum set of functionality that needs to be >> supported before something is considered UNIX or even a UNIX clone? >> Have heard terms like UNIX 95, X/Open branding etc. tossed around. >> > > http://www.xopen.org for references. > > Look at http://UNIX-systems.org for online single-unix specification. > > FreeBSD is not full compability with standart, (for example have no > uid_t and gid_t), Where did you get that idea from? They're both defined in /sys/sys/types.h (and thus in /usr/include/sys/types.h). Greg