From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Apr 13 19:09:21 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 92D0E16A405 for ; Thu, 13 Apr 2006 19:09:21 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from nalists@scls.lib.wi.us) Received: from mail.scls.lib.wi.us (mail.scls.lib.wi.us [198.150.40.25]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D317B43D5A for ; Thu, 13 Apr 2006 19:09:16 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from nalists@scls.lib.wi.us) Received: from [172.26.2.238] ([172.26.2.238]) by mail.scls.lib.wi.us (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id k3DJ9Ful076281; Thu, 13 Apr 2006 14:09:15 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from nalists@scls.lib.wi.us) Message-ID: <443EA1DB.2020508@scls.lib.wi.us> Date: Thu, 13 Apr 2006 14:09:15 -0500 From: Greg Barniskis User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5 (Windows/20051201) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "Chad Leigh -- Shire.Net LLC" References: <443BB35B.6050801@computer.org> <20060411204721.S35382@tripel.monochrome.org> <443C59BF.60901@computer.org> <200604121137.32229.work@ashleymoran.me.uk> <443D170C.3080103@utdallas.edu> <3ee9ca710604120814u6ca61bf5pd459a1cdd5a3ec3f@mail.gmail.com> <443D261A.9060703@scls.lib.wi.us> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: FreeBSD Questions Subject: Re: Wanted: Flash player for .... X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 13 Apr 2006 19:09:21 -0000 Chad Leigh -- Shire.Net LLC wrote: > > On Apr 12, 2006, at 10:08 AM, Greg Barniskis wrote: > >> The Business Software Alliance will gladly descend on suspected >> violators of any commercial software EULA with a horde of lawyers and >> auditors and fines in the 5-6 figure range per violation. > > > The business software alliance is not a government agency and cannot > levy fines without a court order to enforce them. And unless they have > a court warrant they cannot enter my premises either nor audit any of my > machines (not that I have anything to hide, I don't, but people should > know their rights) > > IANAL (IANALAIDPOOTV) and all that IANAL either, but my understanding is that what BSA asks from the legal system, BSA (mostly) gets. Someone else mailed me privately that BSA had suffered some significant legal setbacks recently, but they are by no means rendered toothless. There are obviously matters of formality and timing, and (if you've pockets deep enough) you obviously retain the right to fight and fight and fight against it in court, but the bottom line still seems to be that if BSA wants to audit someone's records and systems, they will very likely be handed such subpoena paperwork as is needed to compel the target's cooperation. Anyway, this is getting way OT... I'm not on -chat but would entertain any other comments off list if mailed directly. -- Greg Barniskis, Computer Systems Integrator South Central Library System (SCLS) Library Interchange Network (LINK) , (608) 266-6348