From owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Sep 28 20:37:33 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A02FD16A4CF; Tue, 28 Sep 2004 20:37:33 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mail.bitfreak.org (mail.bitfreak.org [65.75.198.146]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 63EFC43D45; Tue, 28 Sep 2004 20:37:33 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from dmp@bitfreak.org) Received: from speck.loki.lan (c-24-21-241-225.client.comcast.net [24.21.241.225]) by mail.bitfreak.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3609419F3C; Tue, 28 Sep 2004 13:38:46 -0700 (PDT) Received: from spud (d2.loki.lan [172.21.42.22]) by speck.loki.lan (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7165C322E; Tue, 28 Sep 2004 13:37:31 -0700 (PDT) From: "Darren Pilgrim" To: "'Roman Kurakin'" , "'Dimitry Andric'" Date: Tue, 28 Sep 2004 13:37:22 -0700 Message-ID: <000201c4a59a$f8294f60$162a15ac@spud> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook, Build 10.0.6626 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1441 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <41591FFE.3040206@cronyx.ru> cc: 'Andrew Boothman' cc: questions@FreeBSD.ORG cc: dwbear75@gmail.com cc: current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: RE: "NTLDR missing" after 5-RELEASE install X-BeenThere: freebsd-current@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussions about the use of FreeBSD-current List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 28 Sep 2004 20:37:33 -0000 [ Note to Roman: Please adjust your mail client to wrap lines at more acceptable range of 72-76 characters. Thanks. ] From: Roman Kurakin > > I've seen this before 5.0 release and made some investigation of this > proble. I didn't look this thread carefully so excuse me if information > I give to all you is useless. > > My investigation show that FreeBSD reads full partition table, and after > modification puts it back. It fix all entries from its own point of view. > Windows dies from change of end of partition entry. As I understand with > large disk it shouldn't mean anything at all. But windows checks it. You > may save this entry and after installation of FreeBSD put it back. Just like in UFS, there are structures in NTFS that have to be changed if the size of the volume changes. Also like UFS, NTFS doesn't place data sequentially on the disk. A large, mostly-empty, NTFS volume can have data at or near the end of the volume. The slicing issue is well-known with NTFS. A reliable way to add a non-Windows slice to a computer with Windows installed is to use a volume management tool like PM. If you don't need to resize a slice, use the Disk Management administrative tool to create an unformatted partition, then change the media descriptor when you go to install FreeBSD. NT is so picky it's even recommended that you use the NT boot loader.