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Date:      Tue, 22 Mar 2022 16:54:56 -0700
From:      Kevin Oberman <rkoberman@gmail.com>
To:        "Bjoern A. Zeeb" <bzeeb-lists@lists.zabbadoz.net>
Cc:        Emmanuel Vadot <manu@bidouilliste.com>, FreeBSD Wireless <freebsd-wireless@freebsd.org>
Subject:   Re: iwlwifi: i7260 does not load firmware properly/wifi not working
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Sorry for the top-post, but can this make it into 13.1 at this late date?

On Tue, Mar 22, 2022 at 4:53 PM Kevin Oberman <rkoberman@gmail.com> wrote:

> On Tue, Mar 22, 2022 at 6:23 AM Bjoern A. Zeeb <
> bzeeb-lists@lists.zabbadoz.net> wrote:
>
>> On Tue, 22 Mar 2022, Emmanuel Vadot wrote:
>>
>> > There is a lot of reasons for having drivers compiled into the kernel
>> > or loaded by loader(8), for me one is to have a small mfsroot (either
>> > embedded or not) without any kernel modules.
>>
>> Yeah, I have those myself plenty.  Even then I can often load
>> drivers after the facts from e.g. NFS root, or the partition holding
>> /boot/kernel mounted ro.  But those are "custom" setups.
>>
>> > I'd argue that if a driver can't be loaded via loader or compiled into
>> > the kernel it's a bug that we have to fix (and yes I know this is the
>> > case for DRM).
>>
>> Wireless drivers can still be loaded from loader;  in those cases
>> people just need to load the appropriate firmware manually as well.
>>
>> What I am trying to say is that it should just not be the default
>> as most users on a laptop or desktop don't actually need the driver to
>> get to multi-user.
>>
>> /bz
>>
>> --
>> Bjoern A. Zeeb                                                     r15:7
>>
>> Ouch! Never thought to confirm that iwlwifi was in devd.conf! That seems
> to have fixed it.
>
> N.B. I simply hand edited the patch (add iwlwifi and delete wi) and
> rebooted. It worked correctly and, for the first time, the network came up
> properly with no intervention. The patch should have fixed the problem and
> with only a single test, it appears that it did.
>
> Thanks!
> --
> Kevin Oberman, Part time kid herder and retired Network Engineer
> E-mail: rkoberman@gmail.com
> PGP Fingerprint: D03FB98AFA78E3B78C1694B318AB39EF1B055683
>


-- 
Kevin Oberman, Part time kid herder and retired Network Engineer
E-mail: rkoberman@gmail.com
PGP Fingerprint: D03FB98AFA78E3B78C1694B318AB39EF1B055683

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<div dir=3D"ltr"><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-family:tahoma,s=
ans-serif;font-size:small">Sorry for the top-post, but can this make it int=
o 13.1 at this late date? <br></div></div><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><d=
iv dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_attr">On Tue, Mar 22, 2022 at 4:53 PM Kevin O=
berman &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:rkoberman@gmail.com">rkoberman@gmail.com</a>&g=
t; wrote:<br></div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0px 0p=
x 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div d=
ir=3D"ltr"><div dir=3D"ltr"><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-fami=
ly:tahoma,sans-serif;font-size:small">On Tue, Mar 22, 2022 at 6:23 AM Bjoer=
n A. Zeeb &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:bzeeb-lists@lists.zabbadoz.net" target=3D"_=
blank">bzeeb-lists@lists.zabbadoz.net</a>&gt; wrote:<br></div></div><div cl=
ass=3D"gmail_quote"><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0px 0=
px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">On Tu=
e, 22 Mar 2022, Emmanuel Vadot wrote:<br>
<br>
&gt; There is a lot of reasons for having drivers compiled into the kernel<=
br>
&gt; or loaded by loader(8), for me one is to have a small mfsroot (either<=
br>
&gt; embedded or not) without any kernel modules.<br>
<br>
Yeah, I have those myself plenty.=C2=A0 Even then I can often load<br>
drivers after the facts from e.g. NFS root, or the partition holding<br>
/boot/kernel mounted ro.=C2=A0 But those are &quot;custom&quot; setups.<br>
<br>
&gt; I&#39;d argue that if a driver can&#39;t be loaded via loader or compi=
led into<br>
&gt; the kernel it&#39;s a bug that we have to fix (and yes I know this is =
the<br>
&gt; case for DRM).<br>
<br>
Wireless drivers can still be loaded from loader;=C2=A0 in those cases<br>
people just need to load the appropriate firmware manually as well.<br>
<br>
What I am trying to say is that it should just not be the default<br>
as most users on a laptop or desktop don&#39;t actually need the driver to<=
br>
get to multi-user.<br>
<br>
/bz<br>
<br>
-- <br>
Bjoern A. Zeeb=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=
=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0r15:7<br>
<br>
</blockquote></div><div style=3D"font-family:tahoma,sans-serif;font-size:sm=
all" class=3D"gmail_default">Ouch! Never thought to confirm that iwlwifi wa=
s in devd.conf! That seems to have fixed it.</div><div style=3D"font-family=
:tahoma,sans-serif;font-size:small" class=3D"gmail_default"><br></div><div =
style=3D"font-family:tahoma,sans-serif;font-size:small" class=3D"gmail_defa=
ult">N.B. I simply hand edited the patch (add iwlwifi and delete wi) and re=
booted. It worked correctly and, for the first time, the network came up pr=
operly with no intervention. The patch should have fixed the problem and wi=
th only a single test, it appears that it did. <br></div><br clear=3D"all">=
<div style=3D"font-family:tahoma,sans-serif;font-size:small" class=3D"gmail=
_default">Thanks!</div>-- <br><div dir=3D"ltr"><div dir=3D"ltr"><div><div d=
ir=3D"ltr"><div><div dir=3D"ltr"><div><div dir=3D"ltr">Kevin Oberman, Part =
time kid herder and retired Network Engineer<br>E-mail: <a href=3D"mailto:r=
koberman@gmail.com" target=3D"_blank">rkoberman@gmail.com</a><br></div><div=
>PGP Fingerprint: D03FB98AFA78E3B78C1694B318AB39EF1B055683</div></div></div=
></div></div></div></div></div></div>
</blockquote></div><br clear=3D"all"><br>-- <br><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"g=
mail_signature"><div dir=3D"ltr"><div><div dir=3D"ltr"><div><div dir=3D"ltr=
"><div><div dir=3D"ltr">Kevin Oberman, Part time kid herder and retired Net=
work Engineer<br>E-mail: <a href=3D"mailto:rkoberman@gmail.com" target=3D"_=
blank">rkoberman@gmail.com</a><br></div><div>PGP Fingerprint: D03FB98AFA78E=
3B78C1694B318AB39EF1B055683</div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div>

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