From owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Sep 10 16:10:07 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 464F116A4BF for ; Wed, 10 Sep 2003 16:10:07 -0700 (PDT) Received: from pd3mo2so.prod.shaw.ca (shawidc-mo1.cg.shawcable.net [24.71.223.10]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CEE5143FAF for ; Wed, 10 Sep 2003 16:10:05 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jdearl@telus.net) Received: from pd6mr2so.prod.shaw.ca (pd6mr2so-qfe3.prod.shaw.ca [10.0.141.217]) by l-daemon (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.16 (built May 14 2003)) with ESMTP id <0HL000JK5THV75@l-daemon> for freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org; Wed, 10 Sep 2003 17:05:55 -0600 (MDT) Received: from pn2ml2so.prod.shaw.ca (pn2ml2so-qfe0.prod.shaw.ca [10.0.121.146]) by l-daemon (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.16 (built May 14 2003)) with ESMTP id <0HL000I9ATHVXF@l-daemon> for freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org; Wed, 10 Sep 2003 17:05:55 -0600 (MDT) Received: from h24-64-142-219.lb.shawcable.net ([24.64.142.219]) by l-daemon (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.16 (built May 14 2003)) with ESMTP id <0HL000D62THU0G@l-daemon> for freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org; Wed, 10 Sep 2003 17:05:55 -0600 (MDT) Date: Wed, 10 Sep 2003 17:05:47 -0600 From: James Earl In-reply-to: <"from nakal"@web.de> To: Martin Message-id: <20030910230547.GC858@h24-64-142-219.lb.shawcable.net> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Balsa 2.0.14 Content-type: text/plain; Format=Flowed; DelSp=Yes; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-disposition: inline Lines: 73 References: <20030909175341.GA785@h24-64-142-219.lb.shawcable.net> <1063205778.593.30.camel@klotz.local> cc: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Subject: Re: XFree86 problem when on battery and AGP/ACPI X-BeenThere: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Mobile computing with FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 10 Sep 2003 23:10:07 -0000 On 09/10/03 08:56:19, Martin wrote: > Am Di, 2003-09-09 um 19.53 schrieb James Earl: > > When the system freezes up, the mouse does move, but jumps slowly > from > > place to place, and the HDD light flashes occasionally. > > > > If I remove 'device agp' in the kernel, everything works fine (with > > > ACPI enabled), or if I disable ACPI everything works fine (with AGP > > > enabled). My guess would be an ACPI problem... and everyones > probably > > saying just disable ACPI! :) > > > > Has anyone had a similar problem? > > Yes. Similar. I have a Thinkpad R40 running current, too. > > I don't know if removing ACPI and/or agp solves the problem. I will > check soon. I also don't know if the problem occures only on > battery. I'm beginning to wonder if removing ACPI and/or AGP solves the problem myself. I shutdown and restarted XFree86 over 20 times with both ACPI and AGP. I was beginning to think it was fixed... then it froze up right when my confidence was high! :| So it seems very unpredictable on my system at least. > (Btw: in the i386/conf/NOTES file you will see the comment that one > should not load agp as module when using radeondrm: > # mga requires AGP in the kernel, and it is recommended > # for AGP r128 and radeon cards. > ) I've never loaded agp as a module. I've either built the kernel with or without agp support. I've also built the kernel with and without radeondrm - no apparent difference. > After running XFree (Radeon 7500) for a longer time, I cannot > restart it anymore, because it _seems_ to freeze up the system. > I have tried to check what happens and managed to login with ssh. > > After running top, I could see XFree eating up the CPU >100%. > Shutdown from ssh does not work in this situation somehow > (it does not unmount properly and the XFree display stays > frozen, sshd gets killed). > > I have this strange HDD activity, too, as you described above. > > --- > > I guess this all is related to the Radeon 7500 problem. And I have > a question about it here: > > Is it normal behavior that when starting a second instance of XFree > (on :1 for example) the Radeon-GLX-extension fails to load? You can > reproduce it very easily. This may be the same thing mentioned on (under Todo): http://people.freebsd.org/~anholt/dri/ > Martin > > PS.: problems with Radeon 7500 have been already described on > the freebsd-current mailing list many times. Currently I don't seem to be having the problem very often... which is strange. It's like my system was just having a bad day or something! ;)