From owner-freebsd-java@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jun 30 09:13:20 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-java@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-java@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 473E116A514 for ; Fri, 30 Jun 2006 09:13:20 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jshevland@rowantreesoftware.com.au) Received: from www.rowantreesoftware.com.au (218-214-142-195.people.net.au [218.214.142.195]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1635744611 for ; Fri, 30 Jun 2006 08:47:35 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from jshevland@rowantreesoftware.com.au) Received: from [127.0.0.1] (unknown [10.10.0.250]) by www.rowantreesoftware.com.au (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6C43611411; Fri, 30 Jun 2006 18:47:33 +1000 (EST) Message-ID: <44A4E4E1.40907@rowantreesoftware.com.au> Date: Fri, 30 Jun 2006 18:46:25 +1000 From: Joe Shevland Organization: Rowantree Software Pty. Ltd. User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.4 (Windows/20060516) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Achilleus Mantzios References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-7; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Cc: Chuck McCrobie , freebsd-java@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Redistribution of Official FreeBSD JRE X-BeenThere: freebsd-java@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting Java to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 30 Jun 2006 09:13:20 -0000 Achilleus Mantzios wrote: > O Chuck McCrobie Ýãñáøå óôéò Jun 29, 2006 : > > Some people here i assume are very well aware of the > legal issues involved in the "SUN","java","BSD" arena, > but anyway its vacation time, so some members of the > community might not have access to their email. > > >> Okay, I´ve read the OEM re-distribution terms and the >> end-user license agreement for the official FreeBSD >> java binaries. I'm confused. I just had a quick read of the LICENSE (where's the OEM one?), and I got the impression its OK to bundle the JRE with software/hardware, so long as you present the EULA to the user and they accept/reject it. If they reject it, well, your only recourse then is to have the machine self-implode, or similar. To my mind, its the spirit/intent of the JRE to do exactly what you're after, and any licenses etc that seem to go against this are probably just the lawyers getting in the way and going overboard, so if you are right, there may be some wiggle room to get things amended if they've hobbled things so badly. If I'm wrong on the latter, I can't see why they'd restrict further penetration of the JRE. If I had to do this commercially though I'd find a greedy scumbag^W^W lawyer and have it review it to be sure. Cheers Joe