From owner-freebsd-questions Sat Sep 5 09:38:34 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id JAA10825 for freebsd-questions-outgoing; Sat, 5 Sep 1998 09:38:34 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from camel7.mindspring.com (camel7.mindspring.com [207.69.200.57]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id JAA10820 for ; Sat, 5 Sep 1998 09:38:26 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from khardis@mindspring.com) Received: from mindspring.com (user-38ld5hl.dialup.mindspring.com [209.86.150.53]) by camel7.mindspring.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id MAA27256 for ; Sat, 5 Sep 1998 12:37:06 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <35F16843.952BC9F7@mindspring.com> Date: Sat, 05 Sep 1998 09:35:16 -0700 From: "Khardis d'Gorith" Organization: Adumbral Empire X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.06 [en] (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Fix this Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I am beyond upset at this moment, and im hoping this e-mail for FreeBSD is working. First of all, I doubt this email has anything to do with the mailing list spam im getting. Secondly, I really don't care, since no one at that spam list will respond. Thirdly, the email address I am supposed to respond to doesnt even exist. So, I will be taking my complaints here and expecting results. I'll just copy and paste the last mail I sent that was sent back to me, since no one was at the email address to recieve it. And i'll also be cutting and pasting the spam mail I am recieving once per day. This has to do with the domain drow@drow.net that has somehow gotten on your list. A) I have NEVER given out drow@drow.net as an email address. B) I have never asked for FreeBSD's services either concerning my newly aquired domain. C) If im gonna get spammed once a day, there SHOULD be someone there to answer my questions and stop the spamming. From: "Khardis d'Gorith" To: bounces-approval@FreeBSD.ORG Date sent: Fri, 4 Sep 1998 11:15:18 -0700 Subject: Fet up Send reply to: khardis@drow.net Priority: normal Look, to whoever is running the spam mail that im recieving once a day. Remove me from the list IMMEDIATELY. Perhaps the tone of my voice is harsh, but my questions have been ignored for weeks and I have not recieved ONE response from the many emails I have sent, inquiring to what it is I have to subscribe or unsubscribe to. Because of your lack to help me, I have made up my mind to unsubscribe after waiting through 2 weeks worth of spamming on your end. And now, even after I unsubscribe I am still plagued by your spam mails. I am truly FET UP with this, and wish it to end now. I do not appreciate having my mailbox littered by unwanted mail, and especially do not appreciate this mail appearing for 3 straight weeks, even after I unsubscribed. Now, I dont know why YOU must approve of taking me off your list, when I NEVER gave you permission to add me, so please remove me at once. Good day. Date sent: Thu, 3 Sep 1998 08:32:31 -0700 (PDT) To: khardis@drow.net From: Majordomo@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Majordomo results: unsubscribe bounces drow@drow.net Send reply to: Majordomo@FreeBSD.ORG -- >>>> unsubscribe bounces drow@drow.net Your request to Majordomo@FreeBSD.ORG: unsubscribe bounces drow@drow.net has been forwarded to the owner of the "bounces" list for approval. This could be for any of several reasons: You might have asked to subscribe to a "closed" list, where all new additions must be approved by the list owner. You might have asked to subscribe or unsubscribe an address other than the one that appears in the headers of your mail message. When the list owner approves your request, you will be notified. If you have any questions about the policy of the list owner, please contact "bounces-approval@FreeBSD.ORG". Thanks! Majordomo@FreeBSD.ORG >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> http://www.drow.net **** Command 'http://www.drow.net' not recognized. >>>> Knowledge is power. **** Command 'knowledge' not recognized. >>>> We plan on giving you both. **** Command 'we' not recognized. **** Help for Majordomo@FreeBSD.ORG: This help message is being sent to you from the Majordomo mailing list management system at Majordomo@FreeBSD.ORG. This is version 1.94.4 of Majordomo. If you're familiar with mail servers, an advanced user's summary of Majordomo's commands appears at the end of this message. Majordomo is an automated system which allows users to subscribe and unsubscribe to mailing lists, and to retrieve files from list archives. You can interact with the Majordomo software by sending it commands in the body of mail messages addressed to "Majordomo@FreeBSD.ORG". Please do not put your commands on the subject line; Majordomo does not process commands in the subject line. 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So do something about it) Date sent: Tue, 1 Sep 1998 09:13:01 -0700 (PDT) To: Bounces@FreeBSD.ORG From: <> Subject: Bouncing email from mailing lists at FreeBSD.ORG Send reply to: Majordomo@FreeBSD.ORG Your address has been moved to Bounces@FreeBSD.ORG from some other mailing list at FreeBSD.ORG because email to you was bouncing. Here are the addresses currently on Bounces@FreeBSD.ORG so that you can see which of your addresses is among them. The comment for each address shows the date it was moved, and the first list it was removed from. If you were on multiple lists here, you may have been removed from them as well, but only the first list you were removed from will show up in the comment below. jmb dominus@bnoc.net (971230 freebsd-questions) pl2@centauri.balernochs.edin.sch.uk (980102 freebsd-hackers) hmin@public.cq.sc.cn (980107 freebsd-hackers) mail1@concerto.neosoft.com (980107 freebsd-questions) root@techster.dyn.ml.org (980107 freebsd-questions) siman@nbs.sk (980107 freebsd-security-notifications) geniusj@bsd.dialup.bestweb.net (980107 freebsd-bugs) sparky@muma.tasur.edu.ru (980107 freebsd-hackers) maillist@home.comhelp.com (980110 freebsd-questions) martinm@unison.com (980110 freebsd-questions) dugger@metapath.com (980110 freebsd-config) abial@korin.warman.org.pl (980111 freebsd-current) ap@bti.secna.ru (980111 freebsd-hackers-digest) root@shiva.seranis.com.au (980112 freebsd-isp) niemi@freenet.hut.fi (980112 freebsd-isp) ronan.brennan@penrose.isocor.ie (980124 freebsd-bugs) smalifreebsd@hotmail.com (980124 freebsd-hackers) staff@kyklopen.ping.dk (980124 freebsd-bugs) pan@hepweb.com (980124 freebsd-isp) marcin@wrss.amp.pw.edu.pl (980124 freebsd-hackers) marcin@v-m.com (980124 freebsd-isp) octavio@cdcc-gwy.cdcc.sc.usp.br@cisc.sc.usp.br (980124 freebsd-questions) wghhicks@ix.netcom.com (980124 freebsd-jobs) ricardo@hwbji.com.cn (980124 freebsd-hackers) freebsd@netw.com (980126 freebsd-stable) gemohler@c-com.net (980126 freebsd-announce) mailing@ranma.phy.ncku.edu.tw (980126 freebsd-atm) mailing@hpcclab.hallym.ac.kr (980126 freebsd-atm) jbrann@jbrann.org (980126 test) bsd@post2.nifhi.ac.ru (980127 freebsd-isp) freebsd-isp@tpu.ru (980127 freebsd-isp) mpassya@htsd.com (980127 freebsd-isp) xiyuan@npc.haplink.co.cn (980127 freebsd-isp) xiyuan@www.haplink.co.cn (980127 announce) pujadas@lix.intercom.es (980127 freebsd-isp) flash@interpow.net (980127 freebsd-isp) roskens@cs.umn.edu (980127 freebsd-current) inkari@cc.hut.fi (980127 atm) inkari@snakemail.hut.fi (980127 ctm-announce) ctm@kyklopen.ping.dk (980128 ctm-src-cur) opencvs@development.nyct.net (980128 freebsd-ports) freebsd@isvara.net (980128 cvs-all) catoto@mailexcite.com (980129 freebsd-questions) bradley@mourne.gpl.net (980129 freebsd-isp) ruslan.tchinyakov@quarta.net (980130 freebsd-announce) Paul.Watts@JacksonThornton.com (980201 freebsd-security) mingo@pc5829.hil.siemens.at (980201 freebsd-fs) bsdadmin@s1.telepaging.com.hk (980201 freebsd-announce) ricardo@americasnet.com (980201 scsi) samba@lsik.ti.itb.ac.id (980202 afs) greg@west.netsol.com (980202 current) samba@research.ti.itb.ac.id (980202 announce) Ruslan@Shevchenko.kiev.ua (980206 freebsd-hackers) fireman@ica.net (980206 current) jldavis@rconnect.com (980206 freebsd-hackers) expert@dusk.net (980206 isp) hallgren@range2.easynet.fr (980209 bugs) yasuo@akari.rim.or.jp (980213 current) mail2@concerto.neosoft.com (980213 hackers) cdillon@tri-lakes.net (980213 freebsd-atm) drow@drow.net (980213 freebsd-isp) freebsd-bounces@freebsd.csie.nctu.edu.tw jianruzhu@hotmail.com (980215 announce) eric@pancreas.erols.com (980215 current) freebsd@piet.net (980215 bugs) freebsd-bugs@piet.net (980215 bugs) freebsd-doc@piet.net (980215 doc) freebsd-hardware@piet.net (980215 freebsd-hardware) freebss@piet.net (980215 freebsd-hardware) freebsd-hackers@piet.net (980215 freebsd-hackers) freebsd-jobs@piet.net (980215 freebsd-jobs) freebsde@piet.net (980215 freebsd-mobile) freebsd-questions@piet.net (980215 freebsd-questions) freebsd-stable@piet.net (980215 freebsd-stable) andreas@telepisa.net.br (980215 alpha) jgrosch@superior.mooseriver.com xcom@vvisc.gov.lv (980217 bugs) thomma@carrera.rapid-city.com (980217 freebsd-current) freebsd-bounces-news@ics.es.osaka-u.ac.jp shimon@simon-shapiro.org chiuk@cs.indiana.edu If the problem has been fixed, you can get off of Bounces and back on to the other list by sending the following to Majordomo@FreeBSD.ORG: subscribe list_name unsubscribe bounces To subscribe or unsubscribe an address other than where you're sending the command from, append the other address to the end of the "subscribe" or "unsubscribe" command (for example, "subscribe your_list foo@bar.com"). You'll need to access the mailing list archives if you want to catch up on whatever you missed while you were off the main list. If you don't want to keep getting these reminders every day, but don't want to resubscribe to the list, send just the "unsubscribe" command shown above. If you need to contact a human being regarding this, send a message to Majordomo-Owner@FreeBSD.ORG. Now, I know I am sounding like a jerk, but im passed fet up. I never asked to be on this list, and then when I asked for a response THREE times I was ignored, and when I decided just to unsubscribe I was told I needed permission. I do NOT need permission to remove my name from a spamming list ESPECIALLY when I didnt ask to be on it in the first place. Then, I send my complaint to the new email address it lists, only to have it sent back because it doesnt even exist. I don't want to email about this again. 3 weeks worth of spam is quite enough, and now I am expecting definate results. 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