From owner-freebsd-fs@freebsd.org Mon Aug 22 20:23:05 2016 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-fs@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8C1B7BC299B for ; Mon, 22 Aug 2016 20:23:05 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from the.lists@mgm51.com) Received: from oneyou.mcmli.com (oneyou.mcmli.com [IPv6:2607:f2f8:af30::100]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "oneyou.mcmli.com", Issuer "RapidSSL SHA256 CA - G3" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 721311688 for ; Mon, 22 Aug 2016 20:23:05 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from the.lists@mgm51.com) Received: from sentry.24cl.com (sentry.24cl.com [IPv6:2001:558:6017:94:4cfb:c574:24a0:7961]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "sentry.24cl.com", Issuer "Mike's Certificate Authority" (verified OK)) by oneyou.mcmli.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 3sJ4kw2lQmz4D1q for ; Mon, 22 Aug 2016 16:23:04 -0400 (EDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=mgm51.com; s=mgm51-02; t=1471897384; bh=jutxa+OybglFOkkQeppzA3vQu8TBz9vwTD4KtBRc6CM=; h=Subject:To:From:Message-ID:Date; b=UoXzp7ZIU8/MSYE6kg0CHZRXJXQr+rwo5YTb/N0ck4hol6dynJ7Cram7qz6N5gHGS 3br5QR1wmU9EoCjJu1PhhZQRoZ5ZqT3OqJUrmziA1mP3OHL+Hq/LzYjvvDf1dgzav8 sN38UFMG1k5u7lwVVXkvzdSVCcpqWbaOB+45f7vLPtFBUtgD1PBO12u07in2dtWSOB Zust827M20LnUq9DaBsYRZV5vj/z3chICi9UDvQY/5IzXXZEF6zqKDDf8KPfGCwSPg t1EOValpTZi7e8KIlzDT3eCLJfavULcJPgcxSoMVG/aP2x4jfLIjqJ8t5py1YHCVYV URbheDH5wIn1A== Received: from [IPv6:fdcf:b715:2f4d:1:49a0:b0b7:349e:6605] (unknown [IPv6:fdcf:b715:2f4d:1:49a0:b0b7:349e:6605]) by sentry.24cl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3sJ4kv1VzdzGHHD for ; Mon, 22 Aug 2016 16:23:03 -0400 (EDT) Subject: Re: Recommended HBA for ZFS, contemporary To: freebsd-fs@freebsd.org References: <306ccab3-4c78-751a-2258-54701a64ab4b@internetx.com> <41DE4DAA-B5E1-4BB9-AF54-780236A901EF@gmail.com> From: Mike Message-ID: <33322d71-1f14-38f5-a8d5-657c315e3a62@mgm51.com> Date: Mon, 22 Aug 2016 16:22:45 -0400 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:45.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/45.2.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-fs@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 Precedence: list List-Id: Filesystems List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 22 Aug 2016 20:23:05 -0000 On 8/22/2016 2:45 PM, Karl Denninger wrote: > On 8/22/2016 13:38, Mike wrote: >> On 8/22/2016 2:36 PM, Karl Denninger wrote: >>> On 8/22/2016 13:34, Mike wrote: >>>> On 8/22/2016 12:18 PM, Ben RUBSON wrote: >>>>>> On 22 Aug 2016, at 18:14, InterNetX - Juergen Gotteswinter wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> LSI SAS 2008 Based HBA, there are dozens of OEM available for Budget Prices >>>>> With the IT firmware. >>>> What's the significance of "IT firmware"? >>>> >>>> >>> It's (slightly) faster, provided you don't turn on any of the other >>> stuff (which is always dumb with these adapters.) >> Does it come with the HBA board(s), needs to be purchased or downloaded >> separately? > I've never gotten a card with it on it; I've always had to flash it. > Flashing these cards is a bit of a highwire act and can brick them, but > I've never had it happen myself. With that said my real reason to flash > all of mine is to have all of them on the same firmware just so I can > eliminate that as a possible contributor to problems if one starts > acting up and the others are not. It's more of a "good practice" thing > than a need IMHO; it's not a lot of fun to try to run down a problem > only to find out after much hair has been pulled out of one's own head > that the problem is bad firmware on a board! thx.