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Date:      Wed, 22 Mar 2017 12:42:11 -0500
From:      Bob Willcox <bob@immure.com>
To:        Theron <theron.tarigo@gmail.com>
Cc:        Thomas Mueller <mueller6722@twc.com>, freebsd-x11@freebsd.org
Subject:   Re: Status of Intel Broadwell GPU Support??
Message-ID:  <20170322174211.GB82318@rancor.immure.com>
In-Reply-To: <5d9d18c0-e73a-3f08-3ec5-7ad0e4d96ca1@gmail.com>
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On Wed, Mar 22, 2017 at 01:20:37PM -0400, Theron wrote:
> On 03/22/17 08:50, Bob Willcox wrote:
> > On Wed, Mar 22, 2017 at 09:02:27AM +0000, Thomas Mueller wrote:
> >>> Hooray!! My system is up and running the FreeBSDDesktop/freebsd-base-graphics version!
> >>> The download, build, & install was mostly uneventful. Thanks again for your help!
> >>> Bob
> >>> Bob Willcox
> >> Did you use freebsd-base-graphics for buildworld and buildkernel, or did you use the normal /usr/src for buildworld and freebsd-base-graphics for the kernel?
> >>
> >>
> >> Tom
> >>
> > I followed the instructions here:
> >
> > https://github.com/FreeBSDDesktop/freebsd-base-graphics
> >
> > and used freebsd-base-graphics for both buildword and buildkernel. I'm not too
> > clear on just what that means for any future updates, though. I have been
> > hoping for the past year or more that the patches/changes included in
> > freebsd-base-graphics would get integrated into the base. I really don't know
> > if that's happened or planned to be done. Been kinda frustrating.
> >
> > Bob
> >
> 
> I think the problem with upstreaming is that 
> FreeBSDDesktop/freebsd-base-graphics uses elements of the Linux source 
> tree organization, namely the drivers/gpu and Documentation/gpu 
> directories, which do not fit in the normal FreeBSD source tree.  As far 
> as I can tell the FreeBSDDesktop team did this to minimize differences 
> between Linux and FreeBSD gpu sources.  Maybe these directories should 
> be put elsewhere and just the makefiles modified to resolve the 
> differences?  Or have the source consist of the files with unmodified 
> Linux paths along side a patch file correcting the differences, 
> similarly to ports?  Given that most technical issues are out of the way 
> and that there is a high user demand for this support, it seems to be 
> time for the developers to revisit this issue.
> 
> Theron

Must say that I agree. FreeBSD will continue to lose mindshare if this isn't
dealt with somehow. It's quite frustrating in this day and age to have an OS
that can only support tty/console user access.

Bob

-- 
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bob@immure.com |       -- McCoy, "The Tholian Web", stardate unknown
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