From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Feb 5 5:24: 0 2003 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E0B3B37B662 for ; Wed, 5 Feb 2003 05:23:56 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail.bellavista.cz (mail.bellavista.cz [62.168.44.50]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0944F43FA7 for ; Wed, 5 Feb 2003 05:23:51 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from neuhauser@bellavista.cz) Received: from freepuppy.bellavista.cz (freepuppy.bellavista.cz [10.0.0.10]) by mail.bellavista.cz (Postfix) with ESMTP id 135952F9 for ; Wed, 5 Feb 2003 14:23:42 +0100 (CET) Received: by freepuppy.bellavista.cz (Postfix, from userid 1001) id EEB732FDC85; Wed, 5 Feb 2003 14:23:41 +0100 (CET) Date: Wed, 5 Feb 2003 14:23:41 +0100 From: Roman Neuhauser To: freebsd-questions Subject: Re: need some advice on MTA Message-ID: <20030205132341.GW393@freepuppy.bellavista.cz> Mail-Followup-To: freebsd-questions References: <3E4020A7.6030807@myrealbox.com> <20030205120228.GU393@freepuppy.bellavista.cz> <20030205123705.GA17038@anand.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20030205123705.GA17038@anand.org> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.1i Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG # arb@anand.org / 2003-02-05 13:37:05 +0100: > On Wed, Feb 05, 2003 at 01:02:29PM +0100, Roman Neuhauser wrote: > > I run four Postfixes (one of them with Courier-IMAP), and one Qmail > > with vpopmail. > > > > Postfix is IMO easier to install and administer, but doesn't have a > > point'n'click interface. > > > > It also looks like Postfix is a much faster moving target than > > Qmail, e. g. the virtual address/mailbox support has been evolving > > quite a lot, and the configuration changed in Postfix-2. > > > > I wouldn't recommend Courier; I don't know the SMTP part of the > > pack, but the IMAP server is pretty admin-hostile in that it doesn't > > log almost anything at all, so when you run into trouble, you're > > left to guessing, and hacking the source. > > Courier-IMAP is not admin-hostile. You can enable debugging, and it > will log a lot of information. I had a PEBKAC case with Courier-IMAP, and had to add a few writes to get anything useful in /var/log/messages. If the code isn't there, turning a debugging switch on won't buy you much. :) Note that this was one particular problem, and one particular piece of code. It might be different in 95% of Courier FWIW, but that was not my experience. > The SMTP server and client part of courier is also nice, robust and > friendly to other sites, and has many useful features (RBL checking, > rejecting spam, flexible aliasing, SMTP authentication, SSL support) > all out of the box. I didn't say Courier didn't have all that. BTW, I use RBL checks, virtual domains, static routes (non-MX-based relaying), and whatnot with Postfix. All out of the box. :) > And if you install the entire courier suite, you also get a POP > server, webmail server and mailing list manager, and a webadmin CGI to > configure it all easily. Postfix has neither of that, as I said in my previous post ("doesn't have a point'n'click interface"). It's "only" an MTA. I'm happy with what it is, and how it does its job. That's all. -- If you cc me or remove the list(s) completely I'll most likely ignore your message. see http://www.eyrie.org./~eagle/faqs/questions.html To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message