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Date:      Thu, 24 Jul 2025 13:09:31 -0700
From:      Cy Schubert <Cy.Schubert@cschubert.com>
To:        Kyle Evans <kevans@FreeBSD.org>
Cc:        Cy Schubert <Cy.Schubert@cschubert.com>, src-committers@freebsd.org, dev-commits-src-all@freebsd.org, dev-commits-src-main@freebsd.org
Subject:   Re: git: 962876cc24ee - main - UPDATING: Note the Kerberos package  rename (c7da9fb90b0b)
Message-ID:  <20250724200931.D118D784@slippy.cwsent.com>
In-Reply-To: <8200b60d-fcf9-431f-a417-7c0865feefd3@FreeBSD.org>
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In message <8200b60d-fcf9-431f-a417-7c0865feefd3@FreeBSD.org>, Kyle Evans 
write
s:
> On 7/24/25 14:36, Cy Schubert wrote:
> > In message <aIKImiqbMx_oAoZJ@freefall.freebsd.org>, Lexi Winter writes:
> >>
> >>
> >> --/cJljwJYtPl3uHOB
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> >>
> >> hi Cy,
> >>
> >> Cy Schubert:
> >>> In message <202507241824.56OIO88s005888@gitrepo.freebsd.org>, Lexi Winter
> =
> >> =20
> >>> writes:
> >>>>      UPDATING: Note the Kerberos package rename (c7da9fb90b0b)
> >> =20
> >>> Shouldn't this be the other way around? Heimdal is FreeBSD-kerberos while
> =
> >> =20
> >>> MIT is FreeBSD-krb5. I objected to the name change because it could cause
> =
> >> =20
> >>> people to assume they were one in the same.
> >>
> >> although i understand you objected to D51420, i landed it anyway[0]
> >> which means the packages are back to their old names and there are
> >> no more FreeBSD-krb5* packages.
> >>
> >> let me explain why i did this:
> >>
> >> - the change to the package names caused friction both inside the
> >>    project (e.g., it broke the OCI build scripts) and outside the
> >>    project (according to reports i received from downstream users).
> >>
> >> - it was not clear there is any advantage to renaming the packages.
> >>
> >> - due to above i was specifically asked to land this commit by several
> >>    people, including a pkgbase maintainer, and one of my mentors at the
> >>    time.
> >>
> >> - i considered this a reasonable course of action because this restored
> >>    the previous status quo and undid a change that (as far as i'm aware)
> >>    hadn't been reviewed by #pkgbase, so in case of doubt, i erred on the
> >>    side of restoring the previous behaviour.
> >>
> >> i apologise for reverting your code over your stated objections but now
> >> that we are back to the previous behaviour, we can discuss whether to
> >> rename these packages, which i suggest doing via a Phabricator review
> >> that includes #pkgbase.
> > 
> > No offense taken. I'm ok if those using the packages understand fully.
> > 
> > Do people want /usr/src/krb5 renamed to /usr/src/kerberos5 when Heimdal is
> > removed? I'm open to this.
> >
> IMO it's fine to stay where it is; krb5 is a designation given to it 
> elsewhere (upstream?), not just a FreeBSD-ism.  If it were hard to 
> recognize what that may be for someone familiar with Kerberos 
> implementations it'd be more tempting to move it.
>
> I do think we should add a note to ^/README.md with a short description 
> of the krb5/ directory, though.

This is a good idea.

>
> Thanks,
>
> Kyle Evans


-- 
Cheers,
Cy Schubert <Cy.Schubert@cschubert.com>
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