From owner-freebsd-current Wed Mar 10 18:59:13 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from picnic.mat.net (picnic.mat.net [206.246.122.133]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4E25C15064 for ; Wed, 10 Mar 1999 18:59:05 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from chuckr@mat.net) Received: from localhost (chuckr@localhost) by picnic.mat.net (8.9.3/8.8.5) with ESMTP id VAA68892; Wed, 10 Mar 1999 21:56:34 -0500 (EST) Date: Wed, 10 Mar 1999 21:56:34 -0500 (EST) From: Chuck Robey To: Matthew Dillon Cc: Peter Jeremy , current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: panic: zone: entry not free In-Reply-To: <199903110216.SAA59257@apollo.backplane.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Wed, 10 Mar 1999, Matthew Dillon wrote: > : > :> Therefore, my preference is to turn invariants on on all my production > :> kernels as well as my development kernels. > : > :This means that invariants need to add relatively little overhead. > : > :Peter > > .... which they do. You know, guys, for programmers, wanting immediate panics on stuff like this is great, but there isn't one user in a thousand that wants this. If you make this kinda stuff default on a version *other than* current (current being by definition, for programmers/developers only) then you're going to hear bloody murder, and you guys will be doing vast damage to FreeBSD's reputation. Users don't want panics, and they don't care why, they just want things to work. Your reasons are great, and totally irrelevant, unless I misunderstood you and you meant to restrict it to current only. ----------------------------+----------------------------------------------- Chuck Robey | Interests include any kind of voice or data chuckr@glue.umd.edu | communications topic, C programming, and Unix. 213 Lakeside Drive Apt T-1 | Greenbelt, MD 20770 | I run picnic (FreeBSD-current) (301) 220-2114 | and jaunt (Solaris7). ----------------------------+----------------------------------------------- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message