From owner-freebsd-doc Mon Apr 5 13:15:24 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from ptldpop1.ptld.uswest.net (ptldpop1.ptld.uswest.net [198.36.160.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id CEBCD1536F for ; Mon, 5 Apr 1999 13:15:21 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dpilgrim@uswest.net) Received: (qmail 29096 invoked by alias); 5 Apr 1999 20:13:23 -0000 Delivered-To: fixup-doc@FreeBSD.org@fixme Received: (qmail 29067 invoked by uid 0); 5 Apr 1999 20:13:22 -0000 Received: from fdsl89.ptld.uswest.net (HELO uswest.net) (216.161.80.89) by ptldpop1.ptld.uswest.net with SMTP; 5 Apr 1999 20:13:22 -0000 Message-ID: <3709192B.D6E6F586@uswest.net> Date: Mon, 05 Apr 1999 13:12:27 -0700 From: Darren Pilgrim Organization: Neatly stacked heaps of digital chaos X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.51 [en] (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Greg Lehey Cc: junkmale@xtra.co.nz, doc@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: The FreeBSD Installation Guide Project References: <3706CA33.986B5C15@uswest.net>; <19990405115047.Q2142@lemis.com> <19990405035957.DOSU5752963.mta2-rme@wocker> <19990405133944.Y2142@lemis.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Greg Lehey wrote: > > On Monday, 5 April 1999 at 15:58:55 +1200, Dan Langille wrote: > > On 5 Apr 99, at 11:50, Greg Lehey wrote: > > > >>>> Stay the course, Darren. Talk to the -newbies and ignore the crabby, > >>>> jaded ones who've forgotten what it's like not to have a clue about > >>>> BSD. :-D > >>> > >>> I plan on soliciting for volunteers in -newbies. I just want to have > >>> some kind of a webpage up for them to read before waving the Uncle Sam > >>> posters. > >> > >> It seems fashionable at the moment to believe that newbies can do > >> things that experienced people can't, simply because they're closer to the > >> problem. I have yet to see a really successful document come out of this > >> approach. I've found it a lot easier to let experienced people write the > >> documentation and have newbies review it to death. > > > > But that's what is proposed. Letting newbies review it. > > Ah, then I misunderstood. > > > As for successful documents, and this is tongue in cheek for the > > humourless, some people, myself included, consider my website a > > success. And whilst I am a newbie with respect to FreeBSD, I'm not > > new to the computer field. I think it's horses for courses. > > Yes, I agree, your web site is a success. But it's not exactly > documentation, at least not the way I understand that Darren wants to > do it. > > > I'm all for experienced people writing documents. But, clearly, > > nobody has stepped forward before this IGP was started. Otherwise, > > we'd already have the IG. > > Right. I had intended to overhaul exactly this part of the handbook, > but beyond writing a "what to download" section for review far too > long ago now (http://www.lemis.com/handbook/what-to-download.html), I > haven't done anything. As I said before, I'm not discussing whether > it should be done, just how. I think most of the discussion has been over misunderstandings of my intentions. I'm not surpised at that, many people don't understand me. :-) If I can get over this damned infection, I hope to have a web-page ready to send to DW by the end of the week. -- dpilgrim@uswest.net /\ / __ Our lies are merely the gryph@mindless.com / \/OC/URNE truth of another world ICQ: 29880099 Death is not a kill -9, just a DALnet: anim0s make world and shutdown -r now PGPKey available To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message