From owner-freebsd-advocacy Mon Jul 26 18:42:33 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org Received: from allegro.lemis.com (allegro.lemis.com [192.109.197.134]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0E46714DB4 for ; Mon, 26 Jul 1999 18:42:27 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from grog@freebie.lemis.com) Received: from freebie.lemis.com (freebie.lemis.com [192.109.197.137]) by allegro.lemis.com (8.9.1/8.9.0) with ESMTP id LAA19418; Tue, 27 Jul 1999 11:10:53 +0930 (CST) Received: (from grog@localhost) by freebie.lemis.com (8.9.3/8.9.0) id LAA62554; Tue, 27 Jul 1999 11:10:51 +0930 (CST) Date: Tue, 27 Jul 1999 11:10:51 +0930 From: Greg Lehey To: Jeroen Ruigrok/Asmodai Cc: Radu-Cristian FOTESCU , John Armstrong , freebsd-advocacy@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: What to tell to Linux-centric people?! Message-ID: <19990727111051.F62218@freebie.lemis.com> References: <19990726184500.W51019@freebie.lemis.com> <19990726182840.F1384@daemon.ninth-circle.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.95.4i In-Reply-To: <19990726182840.F1384@daemon.ninth-circle.org>; from Jeroen Ruigrok/Asmodai on Mon, Jul 26, 1999 at 06:28:40PM +0200 WWW-Home-Page: http://www.lemis.com/~grog X-PGP-Fingerprint: 6B 7B C3 8C 61 CD 54 AF 13 24 52 F8 6D A4 95 EF Organization: LEMIS, PO Box 460, Echunga SA 5153, Australia Phone: +61-8-8388-8286 Fax: +61-8-8388-8725 Mobile: +61-41-739-7062 Sender: owner-freebsd-advocacy@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Monday, 26 July 1999 at 18:28:40 +0200, Jeroen Ruigrok/Asmodai wrote: > * Greg Lehey (grog@lemis.com) [990726 13:15]: >> Don't get me wrong, I think we should do more to make it easy for >> Linux people to migrate to FreeBSD. But that's a sideline; somebody >> commented that we don't want to turn FreeBSD into Linux. On the other >> hand, the shell issue is an example of where we go over the top: I >> looked on freefall yesterday, and only one person uses csh. Nobody >> uses sh. I'd guess a large minority use tcsh, a couple use zsh, and >> the largest single group (60%?) use bash. > > Guess I am the only fart to use ksh? Dunno. It's a pity we don't have a real /etc/passwds any more. That was an interesting source of statistics. > I recognise DES and EE as the zsh freaks though *G* > > But then again Greg, judging on freefall doesn't account for csh's > popularity in other environments where the default still would be > csh and used. Sure. They're probably the commercial environments where tcsh hasn't been ported, and where people are too lazy to move to one of the Bourne descendants. > All a matter of taste... We could however kick csh out, make it a > port, if it's not there already, and just have /bin/sh ;) No, I think that would start another religious war. Greg -- See complete headers for address, home page and phone numbers finger grog@lemis.com for PGP public key To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-advocacy" in the body of the message