From owner-freebsd-chat Fri Oct 6 10:29: 6 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Received: from mta02-svc.ntlworld.com (mta02-svc.ntlworld.com [62.253.162.42]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A48D037B502 for ; Fri, 6 Oct 2000 10:29:00 -0700 (PDT) Received: from parish ([62.253.87.98]) by mta02-svc.ntlworld.com (InterMail vM.4.01.02.27 201-229-119-110) with ESMTP id <20001006182744.EDMM23965.mta02-svc.ntlworld.com@parish>; Fri, 6 Oct 2000 18:27:44 +0000 Received: (from mark@localhost) by parish (8.11.0/8.11.0) id e96HSnY01706; Fri, 6 Oct 2000 18:28:49 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from mark) Date: Fri, 6 Oct 2000 18:28:49 +0100 From: Mark Ovens To: j mckitrick Cc: chat@freebsd.org Subject: Re: .net threat ? Message-ID: <20001006182849.E252@parish> References: <20001006025604.C55421@dogma.freebsd-uk.eu.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <20001006025604.C55421@dogma.freebsd-uk.eu.org>; from jcm@FreeBSD-uk.eu.org on Fri, Oct 06, 2000 at 02:56:04AM +0100 Organization: Total lack of Sender: owner-freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Fri, Oct 06, 2000 at 02:56:04AM +0100, j mckitrick wrote: > > >From what I have read lately, M$ just might be onto something with this .NET > idea. According to an article on Oreillynet, they are changing their > approach, and this time learning from some of their past mistakes. Does > this have any great impact on the ongoing OS war? Any thoughts? > Hmm, I don't know what .NET is (although I can guess) but your comment about "changing their approach, and this time learning from some of their past mistakes" is interesting. I've been on a (official M$) W2K course this week and it seems that they've finally realized that if they want to play on the 'net then they have to play by the established rules; TCP/IP is the default/preferred network protocol and DNS/BIND is the default/preferred name resolution protocol in W2K (WINS, NETBIOS, NETBUEI are still there but only for legacy clients, e.g. Win95), and Kerberos authentication (although they have slightly bastardized it by using an unused field without publishing it's use). I guess that they had expected the Microsoft Network to become bigger than the Internet (due to the sheer number of Windows users) and so could make their proprietary protocols the de facto standard, but since the Microsoft Network was such a flop they've had to re-think their strategy. They've also added some Unixisms as well; the 'runas' command (similar to su(1)), you can boot to a single-user command line, and you can mount disks (drive letters) on a directory a la mount(8) (although the dir *must* be empty, so no over-mounting). Don't get me wrong, it's still bloated fatware, but they finally seem to (maybe grudgingly) acknowledging that other OSen have some good features. > jcm > -- > "I drank WHAT ?!" - Socrates > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-chat" in the body of the message -- 4.4 - The number of the Beastie ________________________________________________________________ 51.44°N FreeBSD - The Power To Serve http://www.freebsd.org 2.057°W My Webpage http://ukug.uk.freebsd.org/~mark mailto:marko@freebsd.org http://www.radan.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-chat" in the body of the message