From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Sep 15 15:52:50 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 54A4016A415 for ; Fri, 15 Sep 2006 15:52:50 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jaj13@web.de) Received: from fmmailgate02.web.de (fmmailgate02.web.de [217.72.192.227]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A56A943D49 for ; Fri, 15 Sep 2006 15:52:49 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from jaj13@web.de) Received: from smtp07.web.de (fmsmtp07.dlan.cinetic.de [172.20.5.215]) by fmmailgate02.web.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id AFEAD1DBFF24; Fri, 15 Sep 2006 17:52:46 +0200 (CEST) Received: from [83.99.27.193] (helo=[10.0.0.11]) by smtp07.web.de with esmtp (WEB.DE 4.107 #114) id 1GOFzi-000484-00; Fri, 15 Sep 2006 17:52:46 +0200 Message-ID: <450ACC4D.2090500@web.de> Date: Fri, 15 Sep 2006 17:52:45 +0200 From: Jona Joachim User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.7 (X11/20060915) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Jerry McAllister References: <20060914222340.41828.qmail@web60119.mail.yahoo.com> <407F2CFB-1DED-4466-86E2-ACD171AD07CC@mac.com> <4509F7DB.7080500@web.de> <20060915144538.GB80615@gizmo.acns.msu.edu> In-Reply-To: <20060915144538.GB80615@gizmo.acns.msu.edu> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.94.0.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: jaj13@web.de X-Sender: jaj13@web.de Cc: FreeBSD Questions Subject: Re: Firefox+Flash X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 15 Sep 2006 15:52:50 -0000 Jerry McAllister wrote: > On Fri, Sep 15, 2006 at 02:46:19AM +0200, Jona Joachim wrote: > >> Chuck Swiger wrote: >>> On Sep 14, 2006, at 3:23 PM, Peter wrote: >>>> Yes, the Flash issue is a real bummer. It is best *not* to show your >>>> friends that when you introduce them to FBSD. >>> Why? Is there some reason that you or they want to watch ads? >>> >>> I can't think of a single site that I use that needs Flash; I don't >>> install it even on a Windows or MacOS X box. >> I don't have the need for Flash either. Youtube and Google Video should >> provide their videos in a proper way. >> I still believe in dynamic SVG for clear animations. You can watch one >> of those on the Opera site about SVG, it's great. >> Nobody needs proprietary binary formats on the Internet. > > Nice thought, but the real world is full of flash, much as it annoys me. > > By the way, I didn't find an SVG animation on the Opera page though > it mentioned SVG and hyped it a little. It's there: http://www.opera.com/products/desktop/svg/ Your browser has to support SVG 1.1 Tiny to view it. I know that Firefox (even 2.0) and Konqueror don't support it yet. Opera supports it from version 8 on. --jona