From owner-freebsd-arch@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Feb 13 00:19:40 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: arch@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 1F92FCFB; Fri, 13 Feb 2015 00:19:40 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-lb0-x231.google.com (mail-lb0-x231.google.com [IPv6:2a00:1450:4010:c04::231]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id AC6C6274; Fri, 13 Feb 2015 00:19:39 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-lb0-f177.google.com with SMTP id z11so12619194lbi.8; Thu, 12 Feb 2015 16:19:37 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject :from:to:cc:content-type; bh=Tk6+5q4jzi1kq5YcxZ53POnIOOmfu7I5bnQRi9lBwqU=; b=JM3ov/sSNow4BaFmY//tidNKogOAG6gNaGzl0oOZSYd96ttIVLlqtJxbo1C2wyokf7 pmKAGnfUtapdDTQTZQ0v7f9HBt8fWdqLSgVoPVVM8VNB4n3vRj1mzr8ZYxIwdCsdCPd6 jn1ChhzO5iBqySU6umYsSGIas4eqrQCNhfukgbIMoFZp1MJEPxAiQuwiR0EexRTjOckp of8T6+iU1oMNDAI2dSEzKk4Al3Y8yGM28NR6IjdM8ny2kqbW+JWwsTuHAHgcPQxw1LO8 O7NWgWyHH+CTK8KR8wKNyIIb864hwx+SAB/PfV54fWJjWmP8JEEbTifAb0/PQN2POMp8 1y9Q== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.112.181.165 with SMTP id dx5mr5454175lbc.89.1423786777889; Thu, 12 Feb 2015 16:19:37 -0800 (PST) Sender: crodr001@gmail.com Received: by 10.112.28.40 with HTTP; Thu, 12 Feb 2015 16:19:37 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <201502122349.t1CNnD43027915@fire.js.berklix.net> References: <20150210223854.GT29891@ivaldir.etoilebsd.net> <201502122349.t1CNnD43027915@fire.js.berklix.net> Date: Thu, 12 Feb 2015 16:19:37 -0800 X-Google-Sender-Auth: 8_dbZbIAocFSj2NneiWM7tmNDDI Message-ID: Subject: Re: [RFC] Removin the old make From: Craig Rodrigues To: "Julian H. Stacey" Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.18-1 Cc: arch@freebsd.org, Baptiste Daroussin , FreeBSD Current X-BeenThere: freebsd-arch@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18-1 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussion related to FreeBSD architecture List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 13 Feb 2015 00:19:40 -0000 On Thu, Feb 12, 2015 at 3:49 PM, Julian H. Stacey wrote: > > In FreeBSD-9.3 : > bmake is not default, merely there > -r-xr-xr-x 1 root wheel 518032 Nov 5 16:58 /usr/bin/bmake* > -r-xr-xr-x 1 root wheel 453176 Nov 5 16:58 /usr/bin/make* > & man make has No Warning people should migrate to bmake. > > FreeBSD-10.0 > Has Only one /usr/bin/*make (& no make.old) > & No warning that it's a new make called bmake or what if any differences > might be from make in 9. > > Well, there was *some* warning in the release notes: https://www.freebsd.org/releases/9.3R/relnotes.html https://www.freebsd.org/releases/10.0R/relnotes.html Of course, the fmake/bmake changes are buried in a whole pile of other changes, so users may have found this easy to miss. It's hard to describe the impacts of changes like this, and have readable release notes. Oh well. :( -- Craig