From nobody Fri May 8 20:10:30 2026 X-Original-To: freebsd-current@mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4gC0c92P2Zz6cv8x for ; Fri, 08 May 2026 20:10:49 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from yaneurabeya@gmail.com) Received: from mail-pg1-x530.google.com (mail-pg1-x530.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4864:20::530]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_128_GCM_SHA256 (128/128 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) server-digest SHA256 client-signature RSA-PSS (2048 bits) client-digest SHA256) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "WR4" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4gC0c9090Vz3pjf for ; Fri, 08 May 2026 20:10:49 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from yaneurabeya@gmail.com) Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; none Received: by mail-pg1-x530.google.com with SMTP id 41be03b00d2f7-c801b30188dso1091837a12.3 for ; Fri, 08 May 2026 13:10:48 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20251104; t=1778271042; x=1778875842; darn=freebsd.org; h=to:references:message-id:cc:date:in-reply-to:from:subject :mime-version:from:to:cc:subject:date:message-id:reply-to; bh=r5XumCqdxY0MqhEDPV39cNOx1av2YYydrh+KsuqT6V0=; b=kISxe/813JkxbvAchtgG6ZwlxPcxU+8EKPvDkILIctvEH6sEs199DLMHdo2M3kas+x 0uN48jdIIpU5qvn+xGwEse0KNWxzN+WACDSH8gYxPuesIVykuQMUn89YyLio8QTQalAX LXFHW5kmu1SJAlLuPGgJxXXjmQi9SLKXTpvAB/egp34ngyDqtj4zr1K1FhxfF8qNAcqe Y7OUY80uLnmb1q6OGXUGN5jpfcpxKTVzzCio4kn1f4a0lebvzZczzI+0Nsv/kSJsawVn cyTUBLXM3nHx5z0BleGBYQBqv/mBnYZkNGt3eXfi17lWiEAUfCUsiLTdZPa9paQZIBsV /9NA== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20251104; t=1778271042; x=1778875842; h=to:references:message-id:cc:date:in-reply-to:from:subject :mime-version:x-gm-gg:x-gm-message-state:from:to:cc:subject:date :message-id:reply-to; bh=r5XumCqdxY0MqhEDPV39cNOx1av2YYydrh+KsuqT6V0=; b=NWOdbb3oJAwfiQaYeRNltkLO5x4gYO75BK56BTBnyqUv7JljPNcZGKPEHuO/iY1OzP Ylcklu6DTngbMMqisvq55KK/i3W37K6X91poFTmHVUXlWWzf4an9y9FHQqvJdLjNipox tlasIBxOPUkMx4M1mFZjZ11nBmFkCKL4QO71QdlaMxe0vlsKctCliDi2ixm7UtcW9+F4 6rjBFEcNI61nKZPHqB7wWRb6R5Z91ECCfdWY4lLqiqV3BgB4MBeKUxRdxXAdxH1EICYQ Ou/dpW9s4ZtcYpHczknj7nsS8l12B6XCFJoVM0IBsg3sfkq/7lfk22yAhQdcSesqTCT2 MDeg== X-Forwarded-Encrypted: i=1; AFNElJ8XitUvUlVMYwS7yr5Au49yW8C9kOVicsYkQvehgAxyxmKMPSinxfUvur26FtepV8zc86qfXLpSU2U0pqK1SHk=@freebsd.org X-Gm-Message-State: AOJu0Yyl84XT8sMnkPjsoKrdcuh0u9+BvIBHLhhPaU+tMk/5mprybBHG r/bJPKZSN8HyYcmLufIZwbIZnTvD/KNgq9diZE0/KAOC/+/BakyNhl+kLdJ1hs3n X-Gm-Gg: AeBDietq+TO9qKtwrhfSK0Iz49k1qE8Tda7yCrPztikwFhWHepOrP/vEnpeMCUKTHX8 CVB7yugfn8+vqANwaJCHmdCuHr7VUKdJ29UkOC/HCiCUeWZcAwYeZMN168UzzbWNRv0GPtGjgoE JI1X4Ygt9hH6Ozd79eWPSP3XwilA9C3Hakpq3ck1Kj8Vpo+k/TVpnKPE3FUK8IZOD6r5ZsBif13 BrF8OyoBaN9o4xx51kjk/W7GVq2rWhJPjQBB+0J4QVHpa1ouVlKBvf2M/A6kwBbJJBA5RjSOEgq 8Fw+qZNyIqKM3u9B5mFQX6T8BQGyXDOWTBlHJmMiD1nAqEYxLcNx3MK/31GwRqHbPLPkVmaQ+AQ 9CpaHM4hsM9k5hTXCENcWBsYbMbVj7U5Ro8IBxqzd9Zh+WTla3feg6r5ZFC2mPr9lvmITR/+Cr+ CcdpFc5M3RH3K8R4LpW9hdqxLbNjCRVSJL0fEzicEDzWekxqYH X-Received: by 2002:a05:6a20:734c:b0:39b:cb47:7008 with SMTP id adf61e73a8af0-3aa5ac4f9c5mr15078589637.53.1778271042461; Fri, 08 May 2026 13:10:42 -0700 (PDT) Received: from smtpclient.apple ([185.153.179.245]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id 41be03b00d2f7-c8267735e3fsm2571643a12.31.2026.05.08.13.10.41 (version=TLS1_2 cipher=ECDHE-ECDSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128/128); Fri, 08 May 2026 13:10:41 -0700 (PDT) Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="Apple-Mail=_9A2AE967-3B7F-4750-B278-BD93AA20B4DD"; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; micalg=pgp-sha256 List-Id: Discussions about the use of FreeBSD-current List-Archive: https://lists.freebsd.org/archives/freebsd-current List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.org List-Id: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: List-Owner: Precedence: list Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 16.0 \(3864.400.21\)) Subject: Re: Update strategy and timing From: "Enji Cooper (yaneurabeya)" In-Reply-To: <9ed12219-6e78-4156-b0df-aca91a732127@FreeBSD.org> Date: Fri, 8 May 2026 13:10:30 -0700 Cc: bob prohaska , freebsd-current@freebsd.org Message-Id: References: <9ed12219-6e78-4156-b0df-aca91a732127@FreeBSD.org> To: Renato Botelho X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.3864.400.21) X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-4.00 / 15.00]; REPLY(-4.00)[]; ASN(0.00)[asn:15169, ipnet:2607:f8b0::/32, country:US] X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4gC0c9090Vz3pjf X-Spamd-Bar: ---- X-Rspamd-Pre-Result: action=no action; module=replies; Message is reply to one we originated --Apple-Mail=_9A2AE967-3B7F-4750-B278-BD93AA20B4DD Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 > On May 8, 2026, at 9:37=E2=80=AFAM, Renato Botelho = wrote: >=20 > On 08/05/26 12:48, bob prohaska wrote: >> Is there a preferred strategy to timing updates >> for self-hosted FreeBSD systems? >> On the stable branches it's easy; just update when >> updates are announced and build/install. Once caught >> up, things can be left alone for days at least.. >> With -current there's essentially no pause in the >> stream of fresh commits, so git finds a new commit >> by the time buildworld finishes. >> Is there some marker or indicator that signals the >> -current tree is at least nominally consistent and >> buildable? I'm not asking if it'll work, just whenter >> it's worth a try. >> For example, my practice has been to run git pull, >> then make buildworld. If buildworld succeeds, I'll >> try another pull. If nothing new shows up then run >> install and reboot. This works with a stable branch, >> but with -current there are always fresh commits. >> I've tried looking at the commits to see if they're >> relevant to problems I'm seeing, rebuilding if they >> are and proceeding with install if they seem unrelated. >> Is this approach at all sound? Is there a better way? > You can follow the stabilization week mark. More information at: >=20 > https://wiki.freebsd.org/StabWeeks +1 to what garga@ said. Generally following the =E2=80=9Cpost-stab= week point=E2=80=9D is the best way to handle things if you don=E2=80=99t= have the cycles to debug/triage new issues. If you have any suggestions for missing tests to make your = upgrade experience smoother, please discuss them in a new thread. We can = get the proposals entered into Bugzilla and hopefully handled in a = timely fashion (if the scenarios you=E2=80=99re requesting are easy = enough to implement and make sense to cover in a universal manner). Cheers, -Enji= --Apple-Mail=_9A2AE967-3B7F-4750-B278-BD93AA20B4DD Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: attachment; filename=signature.asc Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name=signature.asc Content-Description: Message signed with OpenPGP -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- iQIzBAEBCAAdFiEEkHfexGRJ3gYRdA2gGpE5DjPsNJgFAmn+QzYACgkQGpE5DjPs NJgZmhAApcK+pUo50Q671Eimn3hTy5vjBzEoDq2HxFCMOr3yICzfBhvntEX3eilT tsUUK1lnwiMldWmKLC2P7FSfqiYXR4sIFI6L5t0YM93Nq2qMgeMtW5ML1+RSiIpo BpM55+kDgtiSPpJIkkvqx2SotrOB+NFmG7+nNcKwvbrGL2yb+3wSk6wkONCNQG6f raVULarny6FBYittRJ7UdfEs4PgP4axh1n2K25lkHUVfLbk1QSDXYpUZ6+zysr1h 4U5KW9WnqONBp0WGj0dVflNIbwTuaTYqdy4UXHnrL7P0nLYCTJ3gguRwpLVWWWpf JlJR7ai6Lwlioci7069hsBOy2JLHuZQMl3gB9knu7AvZPltsuRVuuXoe2+lu/1vz FyznX3uLhqd6kiFYjPOxTyVkUUxW/X8VXOvUiu57o5gpy2p/Nh4potcjz1AI3Rqm QhuIRILAincEq1+UsEsbEZAnzYC0d7By/t/ookiY/Lo5jCXhrMzE1isJkkgOY2R0 itGOtPghcOTNA6YHUG8QUyek2lMuVeV1x35G3q2TQ64VvAEWzAg2T9FiQHjavz2m dhf8rOFR3/UmjIQo99xDaaf7vULQQQy7FcDpOlpA6rlCJd0EKroqOw9aX2ElsR9f sh96tIzsxehxAN85nxpPCH7d7kA7ZMnTOa/NAnPKogAkKTQax/Y= =UQ15 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --Apple-Mail=_9A2AE967-3B7F-4750-B278-BD93AA20B4DD--