From owner-freebsd-stable Sun Jan 27 13:24:44 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mail.gmx.net (mail.gmx.net [213.165.64.20]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 87BC237B402 for ; Sun, 27 Jan 2002 13:24:37 -0800 (PST) Received: (qmail 20192 invoked by uid 0); 27 Jan 2002 21:24:36 -0000 Received: from p3ee21659.dip.t-dialin.net (HELO mail.gsinet.sittig.org) (62.226.22.89) by mail.gmx.net (mp003-rz3) with SMTP; 27 Jan 2002 21:24:36 -0000 Received: (qmail 15491 invoked from network); 27 Jan 2002 21:09:36 -0000 Received: from shell.gsinet.sittig.org (192.168.11.153) by mail.gsinet.sittig.org with SMTP; 27 Jan 2002 21:09:36 -0000 Received: (from sittig@localhost) by shell.gsinet.sittig.org (8.11.3/8.11.3) id g0RL9ZK15487 for stable@FreeBSD.ORG; Sun, 27 Jan 2002 22:09:35 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from sittig) Date: Sun, 27 Jan 2002 22:09:35 +0100 From: Gerhard Sittig To: stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Firewall config non-intuitiveness Message-ID: <20020127220935.C1494@shell.gsinet.sittig.org> Mail-Followup-To: stable@FreeBSD.ORG References: <20020127014848.F23259@blossom.cjclark.org> <3.0.5.32.20020127075816.01831ca0@mail.sage-american.com> <20020127.102748.70374201.imp@village.org> <200201271757.g0RHvTF12944@midway.uchicago.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <200201271757.g0RHvTF12944@midway.uchicago.edu>; from dsyphers@uchicago.edu on Sun, Jan 27, 2002 at 11:57:32AM -0600 Organization: System Defenestrators Inc. Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Sun, Jan 27, 2002 at 11:57 -0600, David Syphers wrote: > > [ ... surprise ... ] As others have pointed out this behavior is > documented, but we must remember that a variable name itself is the most > important and immediate documentation. And having a firewall load when > firewall_enable is NO is complete nonsense. So maybe the variables should be named a little longer to fully describe their effect? Like firewall_ruleset_script_run_enable_when_set_to_yes? I'm sorry if I sound a little ironic, but when one is to administer a UNIX system one should have learned to use the available docs when in doubt. Otherwise we end up with variable names not fitting on 80 column lines while their accompanying comments occupy the next ten lines. This would mean mirroring the manpage in the script once more and is not really the way things usually work. virtually yours 82D1 9B9C 01DC 4FB4 D7B4 61BE 3F49 4F77 72DE DA76 Gerhard Sittig true | mail -s "get gpg key" Gerhard.Sittig@gmx.net -- If you don't understand or are scared by any of the above ask your parents or an adult to help you. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message