From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Jan 22 11:23:52 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id LAA27574 for freebsd-questions-outgoing; Fri, 22 Jan 1999 11:23:52 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from cc942873-a.ewndsr1.nj.home.com (cc942873-a.ewndsr1.nj.home.com [24.2.89.207]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id LAA27569 for ; Fri, 22 Jan 1999 11:23:50 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from cjc@cc942873-a.ewndsr1.nj.home.com) Received: (from cjc@localhost) by cc942873-a.ewndsr1.nj.home.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) id OAA01511; Fri, 22 Jan 1999 14:12:45 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from cjc) From: "Crist J. Clark" Message-Id: <199901221912.OAA01511@cc942873-a.ewndsr1.nj.home.com> Subject: Re: Starting the GUI in FreeBSD 2.2.6 In-Reply-To: <3.0.5.32.19990122121500.007bf100@devrycols.edu> from "James A. Mutter" at "Jan 22, 99 12:15:00 pm" To: jm7996@devrycols.edu (James A. Mutter) Date: Fri, 22 Jan 1999 14:12:45 -0500 (EST) Cc: cjclark@home.com, jmal25@hotmail.com, freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Reply-To: cjclark@home.com X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL40 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG James A. Mutter wrote, > At 08:53 PM 1/21/99 -0500, Crist J. Clark wrote: > >Jason Malone wrote, > > > >BTW, X is not really a 'GUI.' It's called the 'X Window System.' If you > >are expecting a 'Start' button, there isn't one. The default 'startx' > >will give you the 'twm' window manager (X itself does not put the > >title bars, menus, etc. on windows, a manager program does), and an > >xterm (which will be just like your console). There are other window > >managers more like Winbloze if that's what you want (e.g. fvwm95). > > > > What are you talking about? > > X in combination with _any_ window manager is most certainly a GUI. The > term GUI or Graphical User Interface is hardly Windows specific. You've > got 2 choices, a CLI or Command Line Interface or a GUI - Graphical User > Interface. What are you talking about? If you start up the default 'startx,' you get a xterm... which is a CLI, no? It happens to be in a little window you can move around, iconify, etc., but with the default twm setup, anything beyond that (e.g. starting programs) has to be done at the xterm command line. I would hardly call that a GUI. No pull down menus to start things up or buttons to click. To a user who does not know what to do at the console command line, going to the default X will not really make things any easier. That is the point I wanted to make to the original poster. -- Crist J. Clark cjclark@home.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message