From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Mar 13 15:46:44 2003 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B8B9537B401 for ; Thu, 13 Mar 2003 15:46:42 -0800 (PST) Received: from rwcrmhc51.attbi.com (rwcrmhc51.attbi.com [204.127.198.38]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E4F5F43F75 for ; Thu, 13 Mar 2003 15:46:41 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from fearow@attbi.com) Received: from god.woofcat.com (12-251-110-17.client.attbi.com[12.251.110.17]) by rwcrmhc51.attbi.com (rwcrmhc51) with SMTP id <2003031323464105100ir800e>; Thu, 13 Mar 2003 23:46:41 +0000 Date: Thu, 13 Mar 2003 17:46:25 -0600 From: Anti To: Giorgos Keramidas Cc: list@linopryne.com, freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: why BIND and sendmail installed by default? Message-Id: <20030313174625.0f43f0ac.fearow@attbi.com> In-Reply-To: <20030312211148.GA21463@gothmog.gr> References: <1598.192.168.0.4.1047484743.squirrel@mail.linopryne.com> <20030312211148.GA21463@gothmog.gr> Organization: Woofcat X-Mailer: Sylpheed version 0.8.10 (GTK+ 1.2.10; i386-portbld-freebsd5.0) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Wed, 12 Mar 2003 23:11:48 +0200 Giorgos Keramidas wrote: [snip] > really very, *very*, basic services that a Unix machine should be > ready to serve without having to go through tons of ports/packages > just to install bind. why not just have the package install by default so those who don't want it can easily remove it? [snip a bunch of arguments moot were the packages installed by default instead of making everything part of the base system] > With a spare partition /dev/ad0s2a that can be used as a temp root > directory the process should be as easy as: [snip] you don't need a spare partition, any empty directory will do. whenever i install freebsd i do a minimal install, then build and install world and kernel from source with everything possible disabled in make.conf, then installkernel, installworld, mergemaster -i -D to an empty directory, then use diff to find all the crap that can be deleted. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message