From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Nov 17 13:21:19 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: FreeBSD-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: FreeBSD-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4D87316A41F for ; Thu, 17 Nov 2005 13:21:19 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from chad@shire.net) Received: from hobbiton.shire.net (hobbiton.shire.net [166.70.252.250]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 037FC43D45 for ; Thu, 17 Nov 2005 13:21:18 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from chad@shire.net) Received: from [67.161.222.227] (helo=[192.168.99.68]) by hobbiton.shire.net with esmtpa (Exim 4.51) id 1EcjhW-00082Q-3O; Thu, 17 Nov 2005 06:21:18 -0700 In-Reply-To: <7.0.0.16.2.20051117055945.01c766c8@wixb.com> References: <1132111958.1410.16.camel@localhost> <7.0.0.16.2.20051117055945.01c766c8@wixb.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v746.2) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Message-Id: Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: "Chad Leigh -- Shire.Net LLC" Date: Thu, 17 Nov 2005 06:21:17 -0700 To: J.D. Bronson X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.746.2) X-SA-Exim-Connect-IP: 67.161.222.227 X-SA-Exim-Mail-From: chad@shire.net X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No (on hobbiton.shire.net); SAEximRunCond expanded to false Cc: Free BSD Questions list , kayo.granillo@sun.com Subject: Re: Solaris patches and Solaris Express X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 17 Nov 2005 13:21:19 -0000 On Nov 17, 2005, at 5:00 AM, J.D. Bronson wrote: > At 03:52 AM 11/17/2005, Ted Mittelstaedt wrote: >> Hmmm, >> >> We run a lot of Solaris 8 and FreeBSD. I find Solaris 8 pretty >> much the same speed as FreeBSD for what we do. However, one thing >> is that we do not run X-windows on either our Solaris 8 or FreeBSD >> systems, because they are servers and there is no need for it. >> >> I've generally not found trouble obtaining the patches for Solaris >> I've needed, most of them are in the cluster patch, and the ones that >> aren't yet are critical (such as the repaired ncsd program) are >> available on the Internet on non-Sun-approved websites. > > Indeed. But this is not Solaris 10 - thats when all of this changed. This is an interesting thread as we just had a big "discussion" about "free" Solaris 10 and patches on a Solaris x86 list (at yahoo)... But I run Solaris 10 on a machine (and could be more in the future). Strictly server -- no Xwindows etc, and I also have FreeBSD 5.4 on several machines. The speed of various things is comparable, about the same, on similar HW and FreeBSD 5.4 and Solaris 10 and Solaris has higher performing java (naturally) as well as better resource management and better "jails" (zones) (including multicast dns working inside of the zone which does not work in FreeBSD jail) so for what I needed it seems to be a better choice. Except for the "patches." Sun is screwing the pooch with this one... Chad --- Chad Leigh -- Shire.Net LLC Your Web App and Email hosting provider chad@shire.net