From owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Aug 29 15:53:00 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3CAF8138 for ; Thu, 29 Aug 2013 15:53:00 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from imp@bsdimp.com) Received: from mail-ob0-f172.google.com (mail-ob0-f172.google.com [209.85.214.172]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 03A5A22E9 for ; Thu, 29 Aug 2013 15:52:59 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-ob0-f172.google.com with SMTP id er7so680039obc.3 for ; Thu, 29 Aug 2013 08:52:59 -0700 (PDT) X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20130820; h=x-gm-message-state:sender:subject:mime-version:content-type:from :in-reply-to:date:cc:content-transfer-encoding:message-id:references :to; bh=bMxC8CwjEN6j179q/GnMvngnd3tZDL1HNqhw0gxmGQ4=; b=IEIbgnq3p0pcBxwMQhO4rNJNY16hohfPbkxW5Sqi3kg15+YRe8eWUX5wIGFwFUmwV6 MbgJ2zYN2eQjmVeEsbk+1+RubdMkzjwZgDAea+VCXDjYUFkozgY/Z2buk4GVAa6LC8Fn G0YFGTPOG4n2k2w0eeWutmJm5E80RQJ7WLlpyrKR9rTRuCWU1WAM0I45eWu+xTI4wruY AJ6TOVPzXw2do9Glo/DdQ481EDXwZ4SmTfNuJYWtSstdLqkm1/J/K5l3hPysxfShi67R uPTXkXaphxK96Gq3BnG6MKHos5h5O0qGfP+xXqlZPLB6zVOIQ3dEsycRci7pYfDQ3FwD lMcg== X-Gm-Message-State: ALoCoQkH6OBx11aGy0x9FFN/GfH82jQeB1YLOQPiOtGoZne+Q0dKTJNz+0DKhlvefLWaxdVM/pqX X-Received: by 10.182.71.82 with SMTP id s18mr3081962obu.9.1377791579361; Thu, 29 Aug 2013 08:52:59 -0700 (PDT) Received: from monkey-bot.int.fusionio.com ([209.117.142.2]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id rl1sm33101341oeb.7.1969.12.31.16.00.00 (version=TLSv1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Thu, 29 Aug 2013 08:52:58 -0700 (PDT) Sender: Warner Losh Subject: Re: Why are cardbus drivers cbb(4) and pccard(4) still included in GENERIC? Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1085) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii From: Warner Losh In-Reply-To: Date: Thu, 29 Aug 2013 09:52:56 -0600 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: <92E50FD0-1A1D-4CD2-AB73-11D1F189D12D@bsdimp.com> References: To: Kimmo Paasiala X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1085) Cc: FreeBSD current , "freebsd-stable@freebsd.org" , freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion of FreeBSD hardware List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 29 Aug 2013 15:53:00 -0000 On Aug 29, 2013, at 3:15 AM, Kimmo Paasiala wrote: > In reference to this FreeBSD forums post: >=20 > http://forums.freebsd.org/showpost.php?p=3D231135&postcount=3D4 >=20 > Would it be a good time to remove those from GENERIC since the > hardware they are for is becoming so seriously outdated? >=20 > There's always an option to load those drivers as modules if needed. No. It is not a good time to remove them. They aren't as out-dated as = you might think, and there's literally dozens of other devices in = GENERIC that have even less use today... Warner