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Date:      Thu, 05 Sep 2002 12:48:23 -0700
From:      Wes Peters <wes@softweyr.com>
To:        Will Andrews <will@csociety.org>
Cc:        Simon 'corecode' Schubert <corecode@corecode.ath.cx>, ports@FreeBSD.ORG, arch@FreeBSD.ORG
Subject:   Re: package tools into ports/ (was: Re: Bzipped?)
Message-ID:  <3D77B507.1D45EDF2@softweyr.com>
References:  <20020901142653.A32415@capable.rogards.com> <20020901191937.GI87971@leviathan.inethouston.net> <20020902103215.36ae8e3b.corecode@corecode.ath.cx> <20020902085654.GH2072@procyon.firepipe.net> <3D7445D3.DAA2C9B9@softweyr.com> <20020903100258.068fb3ab.corecode@corecode.ath.cx> <20020903121413.GN2072@procyon.firepipe.net>

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Will Andrews wrote:
> 
> On Tue, Sep 03, 2002 at 10:02:58AM +0200, Simon 'corecode' Schubert wrote:
> 
> Hitting two birds with one stone, so to speak.
> 
> > > OK, how do you install the package tools package onto the system if it
> > > doesn't come with package tools?
> > >
> > > Please note that I'm all for having the package tools in ports, because it
> > > will make the one last feature I want to add to them ever so much easier
> > > to build, but we do have to fix this chicken vs. egg probem first.
> 
> Simple.  We keep the pkg_install stuff in the src tree.  That
> way, everyone will always have a minimal version installed with
> the system.  If needed, they can then install a newer version via
> the ports tree.  If that newer version is installed, bsd.port.mk
> will use it instead.

You're getting closer to the right answer here.  Keep thinking.

> Please see NetBSD for an example that they have done for 4 years.
> It's such a great idea I'm not sure why nobody in FreeBSD did it.

Because it's not the right answer.  It's almost the right answer,
one more step and you'll be able to see it.

Yes, I know what the answer is, but I want *you* to get there too, to
validate my thinking.  Hint: /var/db/pkg...

-- 
            "Where am I, and what am I doing in this handbasket?"

Wes Peters                                                         Softweyr LLC
wes@softweyr.com                                           http://softweyr.com/

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