Date: Tue, 11 Jan 2011 17:13:27 -0600 From: Ade Lovett <ade@FreeBSD.org> To: Andrew W. Nosenko <andrew.w.nosenko@gmail.com> Cc: autotools@freebsd.org, FreeBSD Ports <freebsd-ports@freebsd.org> Subject: Re: Removal of libtool-2.4 in favor of libtool-2.2, why? Message-ID: <9B258C60-C910-471E-9CE7-4CC6D9A99511@FreeBSD.org> In-Reply-To: <AANLkTimFOZjOYsb2=H=mCcn1T77K2vWmeBrac9USoBi1@mail.gmail.com> References: <AANLkTimFOZjOYsb2=H=mCcn1T77K2vWmeBrac9USoBi1@mail.gmail.com>
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On Jan 11, 2011, at 16:21 , Andrew W. Nosenko wrote: > Can I ask autotool's maintainer(s) (sorry, it hard to determine > human's name from autotools@ alias) to upgrade devel/libtool from > libtool-2.2 to libtool-2.4 and, as consequence and for completeness, > libltdl-2.2 to libtool-2.4? 1. devel/libtool24 (and devel/libltdl24) were never integrated into the = ports tree 2. as is usual with these things, a whole bunch of stuff tends to break = on each update, requiring numerous experimental runs to determine and = fix issues (don't even _ask_ about gnu make 3.81->3.82) 3. not everything that uses libtool also uses autoconf 4. a whole bunch of other work was doing to clean up massive = over-infestation of autotools versions, leaving us with a legacy and a = current version for autoconf/automake, and a lot less intrusive (in = terms of the ports tree itself) patching in the future 5. there was absolutely no way to get another set of experimental runs = in for the libtool 2.2->2.4 conversion before ... 6. ... the ports freeze we are now in for 7.4 and 8.2, during which = time no infrastructural and sweeping changes are permitted to give us = some chance at generating a full package set for these releases 7. even limited local testing shows that libtool-2.4 is not = backwards-compatible with 2.2.x (there's a shocker) 8. we're not human; even if we were at some point, after dealing with = this stuff, not a chance. So, yes, it'll eventually happen; no, it won't happen immediately; = yes, it'll most likely happen soon(tm) after 7.4 and 8.2; yes, it'll = definitely be a painful and annoying process as always. -aDe
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