From owner-freebsd-chat Wed Jan 22 8:26: 9 2003 Delivered-To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4135737B405 for ; Wed, 22 Jan 2003 08:26:08 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail.speakeasy.net (mail14.speakeasy.net [216.254.0.214]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F1EB743F1E for ; Wed, 22 Jan 2003 08:26:05 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jhb@FreeBSD.org) Received: (qmail 8630 invoked from network); 22 Jan 2003 16:26:07 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO server.baldwin.cx) ([216.27.160.63]) (envelope-sender ) by mail14.speakeasy.net (qmail-ldap-1.03) with DES-CBC3-SHA encrypted SMTP for ; 22 Jan 2003 16:26:07 -0000 Received: from laptop.baldwin.cx (gw1.twc.weather.com [216.133.140.1]) by server.baldwin.cx (8.12.6/8.12.6) with ESMTP id h0MGQ2UT037984; Wed, 22 Jan 2003 11:26:02 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from jhb@FreeBSD.org) Message-ID: X-Mailer: XFMail 1.5.2 on FreeBSD X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <4.3.2.7.2.20030119123751.00d4cc00@localhost> Date: Wed, 22 Jan 2003 11:26:05 -0500 (EST) From: John Baldwin To: Brett Glass Subject: RE: GCC as a selling point for FreeBSD? (Not!) Cc: chat@FreeBSD.ORG Sender: owner-freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On 19-Jan-2003 Brett Glass wrote: > Just read the 5.0-RELEASE announcement, and was astonished to see the > following in the list of features: > > - The GCC 3.2.1 compiler provides the latest installment of the > ever-improving GNU Compiler Collection. > > FreeBSD's dependency upon the FSF's code is a bug, not a feature, and > should not be touted as the latter. Oh, please. If you want a BSDl'd compiler so badly, why not put your money where you mouth is and fund some developers. Heck, writing a compiler to support all the different arch's is a pain and a large task, why not work on replacing things like grep (there is a freegrep, it works but is really slow right now IIRC) or even just trying to replace binutils before replacing gcc. Just do something other than whine that other people aren't spending their volunteer time to please your selfish needs. In fact, I find it quite pathetic that you are complaining and unthankful for the fact that people took time to update the toolchain in the tree to make things like the sparc64 and ia64 ports possible. Without gcc 3.2.1, those ports _wouldn't_ exist. Period. Nor would upcoming work on AMD's x86-64 architecture. Grow up and show some appreciation for other people's hard work. -- John Baldwin <>< http://www.FreeBSD.org/~jhb/ "Power Users Use the Power to Serve!" - http://www.FreeBSD.org/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-chat" in the body of the message