From owner-freebsd-advocacy@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Oct 10 23:41:34 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B1EC016A4B3 for ; Fri, 10 Oct 2003 23:41:34 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lakemtao06.cox.net (lakemtao06.cox.net [68.1.17.115]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EFB7843F75 for ; Fri, 10 Oct 2003 23:41:32 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kitbsdlists@HotPOP.com) Received: from fortytwo ([68.109.49.234]) by lakemtao06.cox.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.05 201-253-122-130-105-20030824) with SMTP id <20031011064131.NOAX10862.lakemtao06.cox.net@fortytwo>; Sat, 11 Oct 2003 02:41:31 -0400 Date: Sat, 11 Oct 2003 01:40:22 -0500 From: Vulpes Velox To: Jonathan Message-Id: <20031011014022.1c83c743.kitbsdlists@HotPOP.com> In-Reply-To: <200310110015.21004.j.e.drews@worldnet.att.net> References: <002801c38fb1$95e804e0$0200a8c0@sbcgolbal.net> <001601c38fb2$b4bf1c40$9801a8c0@diamond> <200310110015.21004.j.e.drews@worldnet.att.net> X-Mailer: Sylpheed version 0.9.6claws (GTK+ 1.2.10; i386-portbld-freebsd4.9) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit cc: Advocacy Subject: Re: A case of FreeBSD users shooting all FreeBSD users in the foot? X-BeenThere: freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: FreeBSD Evangelism List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 11 Oct 2003 06:41:34 -0000 On Sat, 11 Oct 2003 00:15:20 -0500 Jonathan wrote: > On Friday 10 October 2003 11:46 pm, Peter Kieser wrote: > > Actually.. in general, it seems to usually be the Linux users that have the > > "RTFM" approach, other then us ourselves. We have an awesome handbook to > > RTFM to, compared to anything that is available for Linux. > > The "If you ask advice, you'll get polite versions of 'RTFM' mostly." may > very well come from the #freebsd irc channel, on freenode.net. I have gone in > there once or twice and witnessed really rude behavior. #freebsd is an > excellent reason not to use FreeBSD. I would not dare ask a question there; I > think it's run by professional (l337) sysadmin guys who are into sadism. The occasional rude behavior is the nature of irc, you will see the same thing on linux channels too. I personally have had many more negative experience when dealing with linux users than freebsd users. Generally #freebsd on freenode tends to be pretty good... as long as you bother reading stuff and then asking questions... if some one points you at a piece of material read it and if you still have questions, then ask... some questions will also go unanswered because no one knows or no one cares enough answer it... this is especially true for odd questions...