Date: Mon, 29 Nov 1999 20:26:25 -0800 (PST) From: Piet Delaney <Peter.Delaney@Eng.Sun.COM> To: jkh@zippy.cdrom.com Cc: freebsd-sparc@FreeBSD.ORG, core@FreeBSD.ORG, Peter.Delaney@Eng.Sun.COM, pete@freebsd.piet.net Subject: Re: Status of FBSD sparc porting? Message-ID: <199911300424.UAA20252@ha1mpk-mail.eng.sun.com>
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>> Hmm, you sign your mail `obrien@FreeBSD.org', so I guess I'll remember your
>> choice of words next time I need to reference a FreeBSD effort, like,
>> perhaps the new alpha port. Up to now I've never been in any way critical.
>I think you need to separate what gets posted by random people at
>freebsd.org (which has literally hundreds of accounts on it) from
>"official project opinion", something which was in no way demonstrated
>by Mr. Obrien's somewhat intemperate comments on the mailing list (and
>for which he will be duly spanked).
>I think I speak for all of us when I say that we respect what NetBSD
>has done in porting BSD to every platform under the sun (no pun
>intended) and we'd never judge an entire architecture port simply
>based on a new and experimental installer.
>I also won't say that this will never happen again since we just don't
>have that much control over our developers (nor, I believe, do any of
>the various OS projects) but you may take it as read that none of the
>people "in power" in FreeBSD have any desire to foster poor relations
>by badmouthing the others; there's been far too much of that already.
>Please accept our apologies for this latest outburst.
>Regards,
>- Jordan
Is this a joke or what? From what I've been seeing Dave's been a super
contributer to FreeBSD and I didn't find his position of NetBSD
in anyway distrubing. I've been using all three BSD's at home and think
all of them could use a lot of polish on the installation process. Dave
was the only one to confirm the installation problem that currently exist
with the OpenBSD 2.6 tar balls. Clearly it could/should be better.
The fact that the FreeBSD project appears to be making some headway
into the SPARC archecture again is encouraging and it appears that
Dave's a major contributer to that effort and should be in every way
encouraged and supported. The fact that he was dissapointed in the
installation process of the USENIX NetBSD release should be promoted.
I having installed NetBSD on any of my old SPARCstations in a while
but do recall FreeBSD and OpenBSD being better. I just assumed they
focus more on the kernel hacking. The fact that it had a problem I
would think is fine to point out.
Anyway, I hope your spanking note is just a typical Jordan joke. I
recall your taking the Devil's advocate on almost everthing while
you were in England on e-mail chit chat about Intel vs. SPARC arch's.
Anyway, I enjoy all of the BSD ports, and hope the SPARC port continues
it's progress. BTW, I suggest stealing as much as possible from the
{Net and Open} BSD ports and starting from a solid ddd/gdb debugging base.
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