From owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Feb 24 11:16:42 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 1082E816 for ; Mon, 24 Feb 2014 11:16:42 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-we0-x22f.google.com (mail-we0-x22f.google.com [IPv6:2a00:1450:400c:c03::22f]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 906E9185A for ; Mon, 24 Feb 2014 11:16:41 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-we0-f175.google.com with SMTP id q59so4480732wes.6 for ; Mon, 24 Feb 2014 03:16:39 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=sender:date:from:to:cc:subject:message-id:references:mime-version :content-type:content-disposition:in-reply-to:user-agent; bh=53x+NJlTtSVpEhX2PFPwgRYVIj3mY2k6k1+tgJE1OA0=; b=zNpdbCvaI+W+0l4nMj5tcA4TGogG3mYjvVcqK1E7k6eXGf84ycn7qR+ZXkiarUDbGh mMK/Hf5vbVaYeSvUR4p52j6FqzVilmnWyOIYngMNhb3gVA+6btN+jYJBFhecgzO7p68B lb+tDi/Dk8WInF4Jem/YYVYmQ0TLC6n2sTKsTUuw3GzJSsDFdKxG2EZnfDKoErm0mtRz yprdVcOhVxA17hq+eQtJBqc5O6Qf7QeZexSJslUrevVa3ckUG9CJkAcVeLK85tZ/wa+V 3WJmnrcFYLjDYcI4p6lVW8GUQlH//eDczKn/xJxkyM/997qZg4nXg4ZSys53rQapSTOt 56Wg== X-Received: by 10.180.83.137 with SMTP id q9mr13540841wiy.55.1393240599805; Mon, 24 Feb 2014 03:16:39 -0800 (PST) Received: from ithaqua.etoilebsd.net (ithaqua.etoilebsd.net. [37.59.37.188]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id uq2sm41271603wjc.5.2014.02.24.03.16.38 for (version=TLSv1 cipher=RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Mon, 24 Feb 2014 03:16:38 -0800 (PST) Sender: Baptiste Daroussin Date: Mon, 24 Feb 2014 12:16:37 +0100 From: Baptiste Daroussin To: Joe Holden Subject: Re: Import of DragonFly Mail Agent Message-ID: <20140224111636.GB83610@ithaqua.etoilebsd.net> References: <20140223211155.GS1699@ithaqua.etoilebsd.net> <530B13CA.6000005@rewt.org.uk> <33612.1393235765@critter.freebsd.dk> <20140224100036.GA1699@ithaqua.etoilebsd.net> <530B2500.5030608@rewt.org.uk> <37319.1393239415@critter.freebsd.dk> <530B2750.3050200@rewt.org.uk> <20140224110842.GA83610@ithaqua.etoilebsd.net> <530B2953.3030901@rewt.org.uk> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="H1spWtNR+x+ondvy" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <530B2953.3030901@rewt.org.uk> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.21 (2010-09-15) Cc: freebsd-current@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-current@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussions about the use of FreeBSD-current List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 24 Feb 2014 11:16:42 -0000 --H1spWtNR+x+ondvy Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Mon, Feb 24, 2014 at 11:13:23AM +0000, Joe Holden wrote: > On 24/02/2014 11:08, Baptiste Daroussin wrote: > > On Mon, Feb 24, 2014 at 11:04:48AM +0000, Joe Holden wrote: > >> On 24/02/2014 10:56, Poul-Henning Kamp wrote: > >>> In message <530B2500.5030608@rewt.org.uk>, Joe Holden writes: > >>> > >>>> Can I also suggest that ntp.org shouldn't be in the base either? :P > >>> > >>> I absolutely agree, but the replacement is less clear in that case. > >>> > >>> > >> I'd suggest openntpd as a candidate as it would require less work than > >> dntpd since that has some kernel changes. > >> > >> At ~400K it is pretty lightweight and doesn't listen at all by default, > >> suitable as a default ntpd that just maintains time - one can always > >> install ntp.org from ports should they need more features (such as > >> access control and monlist, etc) > > > > openntpd not able to authenticate the sources it is using and thus lack= a big > > ntp feature as a client. > > > > regards, > > Bapt > > > hm, I can't say I have noticed this as being a problem where I've used=20 > it, are there any scenarios where this is a showstopper? Yes when you really need to trust what ntp sources you are using, which mea= ns there are lots of scenarios. regards, Bapt --H1spWtNR+x+ondvy Content-Type: application/pgp-signature -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.15 (FreeBSD) iEYEARECAAYFAlMLKhQACgkQ8kTtMUmk6EyqPgCfWNeMX+WB2+/kk99vuo4muAPi ztAAoKGcDEeVDdgcMTfx2zILn0MUjPVQ =/pHW -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --H1spWtNR+x+ondvy--