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Date:      Fri, 19 Aug 2011 13:22:52 -0400
From:      Gary Palmer <gpalmer@freebsd.org>
To:        Lev Serebryakov <lev@freebsd.org>
Cc:        Pieter de Goeje <pieter@degoeje.nl>, freebsd-arch@freebsd.org
Subject:   Re: FreeBSD problems and preliminary ways to solve
Message-ID:  <20110819172252.GE88904@in-addr.com>
In-Reply-To: <425884435.20110819175307@serebryakov.spb.ru>
References:  <slrnj4oiiq.21rg.vadim_nuclight@kernblitz.nuclight.avtf.net> <810527321.20110819123700@serebryakov.spb.ru> <201108191401.23083.pieter@degoeje.nl> <425884435.20110819175307@serebryakov.spb.ru>

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On Fri, Aug 19, 2011 at 05:53:07PM +0400, Lev Serebryakov wrote:
> Hello, Pieter.
> You wrote 19 ??????? 2011 ?., 16:01:23:
> 
> >> > 3. Kernel features for complex network solutions (netgraph, carp, ipfw).
> >> > 
> >> >    The niche for routers & traffic analysis is still ours. It would be
> >> >    nice to take e.g. pfSense and agree with some vendor (Netgear,
> >> >    D-Link, etc) to put on sale hardware with FreeBSD inside.
> >> 
> >>   What about 10G routing? Here are reports about full-bandwidth 10G routing
> >> on modern Intel NICs with Linux (and multi-core server), but I didn't see
> >> any such data for FreeBSD, and somebody says, that Intel drivers and
> >> network stack is not so good parallel in FreeBSD.
> > With regards to high speed packet forwarding and routing, check out this work
> > by Luigi Rizzo:
> > http://info.iet.unipi.it/~luigi/netmap/
>   Yep, I know this work, but it is rather special, not out-of-box (ok,
> maybe with some changed tunables) routing solution with routing
> tables, some firewall, etc.

I think we need to refocus on what would give the most benefit.  At least
as far as I can see:

- port/package management: most users would benefit
- improved virtualisation support: a lot of users would benefit
- improved driver support: a lot of users would benefit
- KMS/GEM for better graphics card support: a lot of users would benefit

Can you honestly say the same about handling line rate packet forwarding
for multiple 10G cards?

I suspect I would rank true multipath storage support above 10G routing,
for example.

Gary



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