From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Tue Nov 27 15:51:29 2018 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 92DB61151572 for ; Tue, 27 Nov 2018 15:51:29 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from vas@mpeks.tomsk.su) Received: from admin.sibptus.ru (admin.sibptus.ru [IPv6:2001:19f0:5001:21dc::10]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id C6926818C1 for ; Tue, 27 Nov 2018 15:51:28 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from vas@mpeks.tomsk.su) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=sibptus.ru; s=20181118; h=In-Reply-To:Message-ID:Subject:To:From:Date; bh=LqZU9DCY/1mnQWlLZE0pW6ZnLSOqt3gwyI3K02JHhbo=; b=a0yM+1hzpp4MfL40bGpwp2CGXl MYXFtuOLAh/eV6dNQOSX4Ug5Q2BQ7JQ140Cv2/pNqCti7y1otnasryLT/EtV31HcUea6Q7tG0C//4 JaCn0iq77r7hMRR0ExfNeT7Jtxjo+IWEaxt1tJOjhQcwR4FC148+4UAaUDwJVs3/DQko=; Received: from vas by admin.sibptus.ru with local (Exim 4.91 (FreeBSD)) (envelope-from ) id 1gRfe3-000Kp0-SM; Tue, 27 Nov 2018 22:51:27 +0700 Date: Tue, 27 Nov 2018 22:51:27 +0700 From: Victor Sudakov To: "James B. Byrne" Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Invalid DKIM signatures in this list Message-ID: <20181127155127.GB78157@admin.sibptus.ru> References: <6917758579217e9588f5610bb77c9c79.squirrel@webmail.harte-lyne.ca> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="EVF5PPMfhYS0aIcm" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <6917758579217e9588f5610bb77c9c79.squirrel@webmail.harte-lyne.ca> X-PGP-Key: http://www.dreamwidth.org/pubkey?user=victor_sudakov X-PGP-Fingerprint: 10E3 1171 1273 E007 C2E9 3532 0DA4 F259 9B5E C634 User-Agent: Mutt/1.10.1 (2018-07-13) Sender: Victor Sudakov X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: C6926818C1 X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-8.20 / 15.00]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-1.00)[-1.000,0]; R_DKIM_ALLOW(-0.20)[sibptus.ru]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; TO_DN_SOME(0.00)[]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+mx]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-1.000,0]; MIME_GOOD(-0.20)[multipart/signed,text/plain]; DMARC_NA(0.00)[tomsk.su]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_SOME(0.00)[]; DKIM_TRACE(0.00)[sibptus.ru:+]; RCPT_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2]; MX_GOOD(-0.01)[cached: admin.sibptus.ru]; SIGNED_PGP(-2.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_SHORT(-0.96)[-0.964,0]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; RCVD_TLS_LAST(0.00)[]; IP_SCORE(-2.62)[ip: (-8.66), ipnet: 2001:19f0:5000::/38(-4.33), asn: 20473(-0.04), country: US(-0.09)]; ASN(0.00)[asn:20473, ipnet:2001:19f0:5000::/38, country:US]; RCVD_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2] X-Rspamd-Server: mx1.freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 27 Nov 2018 15:51:29 -0000 --EVF5PPMfhYS0aIcm Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable James B. Byrne wrote: > > >On Mon, November 26, 2018 22:31, Victor Sudakov wrote: >> John R. Levine wrote: >>>> The problem is: The signature was not broken until FreeBSD's list >>>> manager >>>> touched the body. >>> >>>Yes, we all know that. We knew that a decade ago when we wrote the >>> DKIM specs. That is not news. >> >> Do you mean nobody cares? RFC6377 is dated September 2011, for all >> these years nobody has tried to do something about FreeBSD's MLM >> breaking >> signatures? >> >> OK, fine. >> > >A lot of people cared. You can visit the IETF mailing list and read >through the reams of discussion regarding the negative impact that >DKIM would have on mailing lists. And SPF had a negative impact on mail forwarding. And the eradication=20 of open relays had a negative impact on postmasters' comradery.=20 That's a price we sometimes pay. However, RFC6377 was written in 2011 and has some very reasonable=20 points. Why did nobody care to implement them? --=20 Victor Sudakov, VAS4-RIPE, VAS47-RIPN 2:5005/49@fidonet http://vas.tomsk.ru/ --EVF5PPMfhYS0aIcm Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- iQEcBAEBAgAGBQJb/Wf/AAoJEA2k8lmbXsY06w8H/3WkkqRu6ef5/tYMyEHglps1 PVIofGmzhqZYcxzmcrgMpKYDpbIheB0Wdzn6l4+IfYbmetQSvzjZqpPSPhGZDrBr tRCrfI4A553mKDfAcDjqJfZwvWrZWlSA65agwnx++f5be+95pBdOfG3x9UYGEBFd oTdPLNkpdyIH7z3c8umd69OinaCnLS2y6g2ars7GGCOEGJXHkUC1IF57X1B4n6lu 4SQEreE9Ce5bJcg/drQalvIZU0uM6XACbSnfeomYwPZT137tY2zTTm6bnbxP+TP4 iipn7woXWyDhy5+N8IgT7KVkR5VxUmSfoY1lwxg2IPvj79B7abm6GjM+euaS3ak= =8S34 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --EVF5PPMfhYS0aIcm--