From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Apr 20 11:49:13 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E10BF16A400 for ; Fri, 20 Apr 2007 11:49:12 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from illoai@gmail.com) Received: from ug-out-1314.google.com (ug-out-1314.google.com [66.249.92.170]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7462A13C459 for ; Fri, 20 Apr 2007 11:49:12 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from illoai@gmail.com) Received: by ug-out-1314.google.com with SMTP id 71so767542ugh for ; Fri, 20 Apr 2007 04:49:11 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=NP5b1aZx1TgnVo1Ttz+OZto07LSs2O4y//Gdt8qKc+OHGGEGFIXsOGhJlDoqV562AOZ6EyH+/mxaEjApwhSiHZ4HtmzAv4pxPp55rpZ6/f9dSopQaHC+4ieUOoEof17gKF7GKnJeXv+dKG17mmSfL6bJqL281YDl/9GUhlIVZWc= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=hkifAaZOYlCw4Qj3jMcYoo5MkVCXPzk3L+EWqJy24tSqohwp6v6dy+ENDL22cTpjdO3MEEewLzVJo43FYmOTOgG7wnRY+8x/xkUtfg7u80OqP3GrT688jkHqqW6k+qsPEYTcVNd8qEHwjtquITe/k+Y26arJdS0/+fDKC/g5Qs8= Received: by 10.82.120.14 with SMTP id s14mr4476294buc.1177069750931; Fri, 20 Apr 2007 04:49:10 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.82.185.16 with HTTP; Fri, 20 Apr 2007 04:49:10 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: Date: Fri, 20 Apr 2007 06:49:10 -0500 From: "illoai@gmail.com" To: beech@alaskaparadise.com In-Reply-To: <200704182140.05185.beech@alaskaparadise.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <499c70c0704162200s15b0bf28oa939100c19c34b44@mail.gmail.com> <499c70c0704182059y41dbeb3aobf520522e94ee750@mail.gmail.com> <200704182140.05185.beech@alaskaparadise.com> Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: MS, Adobe competition heats up, Will Adobe wake and port Flash to BSD? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 20 Apr 2007 11:49:13 -0000 On 19/04/07, Beech Rintoul wrote: > On Wednesday 18 April 2007, Abdullah Ibn Hamad Al-Marri said: > > On 4/18/07, illoai@gmail.com wrote: > > > On 17/04/07, Abdullah Ibn Hamad Al-Marri > > > wrote: . . . > > > > > > > Porting Flash to more OSes will sure will make adobe beats MS > > > > when it comes to web media. > > > > > > I hope they kill each other and take the whole > > > retch-media enhanced web experience with > > > them flaming into the pit of hell from which > > > they came. > > > > > > But that's just my opinion. > > > > > > References: > > > http://www.thebestpageintheuniverse.net/c.cgi?u=boiling_blood > > > > I'm sorry but rich media is a fact in the web, and you can't ignore > > it. > > > > Flash is used with Yahoo! maps, and so with alot of useful apps > > like stocks prices ..etc. > > > > Instead of ignoring it, we should see it ported to FreeBSD. > > I agree. As much as I personally dislike flash, I have business > clients who would be willing to switch from Micro$oft to FreeBSD. The > main stumbling block is the lack of stable flash support. > > Where I have deployed test versions of FreeBSD with either OO or KDE > with Firefox, they were generally happy except for flash. This is one > of the things we need to overcome if we're ever going to be seriously > considered as a desktop os. Most clients expect the browser to at > least work as well as Micro$oft, however misguided that is. Being taken seriously is over-rated. Being taken seriously as a desktop OS would be an excellent joke was the reality of it not so horrifying. Televisions are much better at providing the sort of cacaphonic nonsense that flash users have come to expect. I am pleased clicking a link and coming across the dreadful, "Must have MorkothMedia Flush Player 45.6 or newer installed to use this site". Honestly, I was expecting something jumbly but likely full of information. The "download plugin" box tells me that I have just saved the time of listening to some irritating music while it dawns on me that I have hit a dead end. The primary use of flash, as I have seen it in such places as you-tube and yahoo, is as a content slash copyright management* frontend. That they, the shadowy and sinister "They" in this case being that loveable and fuzzy company named after dried mud, even tried porting flash to linux was probably widely regarded as a mistake, at least internally. Porting it to even smaller-market operating systems, as far as the desktop is concerned, sounds like a losing proposition to me. Especially ones with users as crabby as illoai@gmail.com. *Just you wait and see. -- --