From owner-freebsd-hackers Mon Sep 21 11:28:43 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id LAA29534 for freebsd-hackers-outgoing; Mon, 21 Sep 1998 11:28:43 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from Loki.orland.u91.k12.me.us (Loki.orland.u91.k12.me.us [169.244.111.67]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id LAA29490 for ; Mon, 21 Sep 1998 11:28:24 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from netmonger@genesis.ispace.com) Received: from Celeris (56k-port4030.ime.net [209.90.195.40]) by Loki.orland.u91.k12.me.us (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id OAA09675 for ; Mon, 21 Sep 1998 14:27:56 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from netmonger@genesis.ispace.com) Message-Id: <199809211827.OAA09675@Loki.orland.u91.k12.me.us> X-Server-Comment: Sent via OCSNet/Orland, Admin is: Droobie@Onenetwork.orland.me.us X-Sender: netmonger@genesis.ispace.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.1.0.52 (Beta) Date: Mon, 21 Sep 1998 14:07:32 -0400 To: FreeBSD Hackers From: Drew Baxter Subject: Re: Packet/traffic shapper ? Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG At 12:41 PM 9/21/98 +0000, you wrote: > > >On Mon, 21 Sep 1998 ark@eltex.ru wrote: >> It is the fact it is not flexible enough that disturbs me. >> I definitely do not like the idea of patching every interface driver. > >Instead of handwaving and trashing about saying its ugly/no its not, then >why not take the code, re-write it, and re-submit it? > >IPFW at one time was considered ugly and such. IP-FILTER was considered >the way to go. Now, for FreeBSD, IPFW works JUST fine. --- I'm rather happy with IPFW. Unfortunately I severely hate the fact that I almost always (during migration) lock myself out of the machine (conveniently located 30 miles away) and have to logon to the console to throw in my rc.ipfw and the lines in the rc.local... But *that* is a user problem... I don't want to 'default accept all' in my kernel either.. or IPFW_DEFAULT_TO_ACCEPT or whatever option it is.. But hey, I can only allow certain ports and things like that, which makes it rather flexible. We're still looking into the SonicWall products as well, specifically that of the Plus DMZ variety.. if anyone has any comments on that though, let me know before I fork over the 1700 bucks.. > >So, if you don't like what ALTQ looks like, re-write it. Submit your >changes to the maintainer. Who knows...in 2 years YOUR version of ALTQ >will be standard. But standing about saying it ugly isn't going to >accomplish much, now is it? > >(We now return you to your reg. programming) > > >To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org >with "unsubscribe freebsd-hackers" in the body of the message --- Drew "Droobie" Baxter Network Admin/Professional Computer Nerd(TM) OneEX: The OneNetwork Exchange 207-942-0275 http://www.droo.orland.me.us To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hackers" in the body of the message