From owner-freebsd-isp Thu Jul 10 16:35:22 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id QAA04804 for isp-outgoing; Thu, 10 Jul 1997 16:35:22 -0700 (PDT) Received: from agora.rdrop.com (root@agora.rdrop.com [199.2.210.241]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id QAA04790 for ; Thu, 10 Jul 1997 16:35:09 -0700 (PDT) Received: from super-g.inch.com (super-g.inch.com [207.240.140.161]) by agora.rdrop.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id QAA15747 for ; Thu, 10 Jul 1997 16:35:05 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (spork@localhost) by super-g.inch.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id TAA02356; Thu, 10 Jul 1997 19:49:35 GMT Date: Thu, 10 Jul 1997 19:49:35 +0000 (GMT) From: spork X-Sender: spork@super-g.inch.com To: "Gary D. Margiotta" cc: Jacob Suter , Ulf Zimmermann , Stephen Roome , shovey@buffnet.net, danf@JadeTech.com, isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: your mail In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-isp@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk If cheap is the word, and the Ascend Pipe 130 makes you cringe, you might want to try a Compatible Systems router (www.compatible.com). We are starting to suggest these to T1 customers that need a cheap router. There is a model that incorporates a T1 CSU for about $1200. It's not the prettiest box, but it is all metal, and it even has an ON/OFF switch! The command line is a nice rip-off of IOS, and the thing runs nice and cool... I would guess it could easily out-perform that little Livingston Box based on a 386 (!?). They have an interesting line of stuff, and you get free support and software for life, and an overnite replacement program during the first x years... Charles On Thu, 10 Jul 1997, Gary D. Margiotta wrote: > > ISP Price for a Livingston OR-HS (T1/E1 capable office router, unlimited > > IP's, doesn't do BGP4 but everything else including OSPF) for $649 ISP > > price... Nice box based on the 386SX/25 running standard Livingston > > ComOS > > Livingston has had some really buggy code lately...The new ComOS I got for > our PM2 still insn't quite right...had 3.3.3 on there for a year, then > went to 3.5. Some things don't stay set, and I've heard a lot of people > complaining about the beta code they release (although beta releases are > called beta for that reason...). I grew unhappy with them recently, > otherwise we would've gotten a new PM3. Livingston is ok, but they > haven't had as much time for R&D as some others. You would honestly get > better performance out of a FreeBSD-made router. > > > -Gary Margiotta > TBE Internet Services > http://www.tbe.net >