From owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Jun 19 08:16:04 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2736616A4CF; Sat, 19 Jun 2004 08:16:04 +0000 (GMT) Received: from dd2626.kasserver.com (dd2626.kasserver.com [81.209.184.189]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8DCB743D2D; Sat, 19 Jun 2004 08:16:03 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from outi@bytephobia.de) Received: from duality.bytephobia.de (pD95F092A.dip.t-dialin.net [217.95.9.42]) by dd2626.kasserver.com (Postfix) with SMTP id 0D12F2A0AD; Sat, 19 Jun 2004 10:15:53 +0200 (CEST) Date: Sat, 19 Jun 2004 10:18:43 +0200 From: Patrick Hurrelmann To: Stefan =?ISO-8859-1?Q?E=DFer?= Message-Id: <20040619101843.2840c7c0@duality.bytephobia.de> In-Reply-To: <20040618200501.GB5839@StefanEsser.FreeBSD.org> References: <6.1.0.6.1.20040618181344.02a32268@popserver.sfu.ca> <20040618200501.GB5839@StefanEsser.FreeBSD.org> Organization: private X-Mailer: Sylpheed version 0.9.11claws (GTK+ 1.2.10; i386-portbld-freebsd5.2) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable cc: Colin Percival cc: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Laptop recommendations? X-BeenThere: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: outi@bytephobia.de List-Id: Mobile computing with FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 19 Jun 2004 08:16:04 -0000 On Fri, 18 Jun 2004 22:05:01 +0200 Stefan E=DFer wrote: > On 2004-06-18 18:56 +0100, Colin Percival wrote: > > Ok, I think it's time for the quarterly freebsd-mobile laptop > > recommendations thread again. :-) > > I'm looking at buying a laptop in 1-2 weeks; my requirements > > include 3+ hours of battery life, a touchpad, reasonably good > > FreeBSD support, and a sane keyboard layout; a high resolution > > display would also be nice, but I'm not at all concerned about > > 3D graphics. > > What recommendations can people offer? >=20 > My brother asked me a few days ago, and after some research I suggested > the Dell D505 and D600 to him. Both are very well supported by FreeBSD > (I've got a D800, a friend a D600, which were tested under -current). >=20 > The D600 is smaller (some 2cm in each of width, depth and height) and=20 > has a mobile Radeon 9000 (which you were not interested in, but besides > accelarated 3d it offers improved CPU performance, since the shared mem > VGA of the i855G further reduces the memory throughput, which is already > low because of the low FSB frequencies supported by mobile processors). >=20 > The Latitude D505 and D600 are the business models, which I expect to=20 > be more rigid than the Inspiron series. Both are based on Pentium-M CPUs > with 1.4 to 1.8GHz (the 1.7GHz Pentium-M in my D800 is faster than my > Athlon XP2500). >=20 > Further details (that's just a copy of what I suggested my brother, but > I guess it is not way off of your requirements). >=20 > D505 (fast CPU, DVD-RW, Fast Ethernet, Firewire, 802.11b/g, Bluetooth): >=20 > * 1,7GHz Pentium-M, 2MB Cache (Dothan) > * 512MB RAM (1*512MB, 1 free SO-DIMM slot) > * 60GB hard disk > * DVD-RW (in drive bay, can also hold 2nd battery) > * 100baseTX Ethernet > * 802.11b/g WLAN > * IEEE 1394 FireWire > * Bluetooth, IrDA > * 1 PC-Card slot (Type I/II) > * 1400x1050 LCD Display (15.0") > * Intel 855G shared memory graphics > * battery should last up to 6 hours (53Wh, 1h express charge) > * 338 mm x 273 mm x 33,1 mm (W x D x H) > * 2.3kg (but probably with lower weight battery that lasts 4h) > * 1 year send-in warranty > * WinXP Pro > * ~1700 Euro (incl. delivery, w.o. VAT) >=20 > D600 (slower CPU, DVD+CD/RW-Combo, Gigabit-Ethernet, 802.11b/g, Bluetooth= ): >=20 > * 1.4GHz Pentium-M, 1MB Cache (200 Euro cheaper than 1.7GHz) > * 512MB RAM (2*256MB, no free memory slot) > * 60GB hard disk > * DVD+CD/RW (in drive bay, can also hold 2nd battery) > * 1000baseTX Ethernet > * 802.11b/g WLAN > * Bluetooth, IrDA, Smartcard-Reader > * 1 PC-Card slot (Type I/II) > * 1400x1050 LCD Display (14.1") > * mobile Radeon 9000 with 32MB RAM > * battery should last some 4.5 hours (48Wh, 1h express charge) > * 315 mm x 257 mm x 30.8 mm (W x D x H) > * 2.17kg (but probably only with 32Wh battery) > * 3 years international next day on-site service > * WinXP Pro > * ~1500 Euro (incl. delivery, w.o. VAT) > =20 >=20 > As I said before, this is just what I suggested to my brother, but it may > also happen to suit your needs ;-) >=20 > Except for the V.92 modem. all components are fully supported by FreeBSD= =20 > (including Bluetooth and sound). >=20 > And, in fact, the D600 above is what I'd buy myself, if I had to choose > a new system today ... >=20 > Regards, STefan I only can recommend a Dell Latitude D600 :) Especially with 3years on-site service on next day and insurance ;) I got one my self and it is awesome. I'm no friend of ibm thinkpads. Most of them have problem with bsd and their quality isn't as good as it wa= s in the past :/ (my fellow students all own ibm thinkpads t23 and their qu= ality is really crap). for best cpu-performance and portability buy centrino (pentium m based) lap= top. 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