From owner-cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Nov 20 17:54:38 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: cvs-all@FreeBSD.org Delivered-To: cvs-all@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B74E116A41F; Sun, 20 Nov 2005 17:54:38 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from sam@errno.com) Received: from ebb.errno.com (ebb.errno.com [69.12.149.25]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2998143D46; Sun, 20 Nov 2005 17:54:37 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from sam@errno.com) Received: from [10.0.0.192] ([10.0.0.192]) (authenticated bits=0) by ebb.errno.com (8.12.9/8.12.6) with ESMTP id jAKHsXpU006620 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Sun, 20 Nov 2005 09:54:34 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from sam@errno.com) Message-ID: <4380B812.7020507@errno.com> Date: Sun, 20 Nov 2005 09:53:22 -0800 From: Sam Leffler Organization: Errno Consulting User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0.7 (Macintosh/20050923) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Mike Silbersack References: <200511191654.jAJGsu9n022860@repoman.freebsd.org> <43801038.7050109@errno.com> <438023A1.50002@root.org> <20051120013533.F10822@odysseus.silby.com> In-Reply-To: <20051120013533.F10822@odysseus.silby.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: cvs-src@FreeBSD.org, src-committers@FreeBSD.org, Damien Bergamini , cvs-all@FreeBSD.org, Nate Lawson Subject: Re: cvs commit: src/sys/modules/iwi Makefile src/sys/dev/iwi if_iwi.c if_iwireg.h if_iwivar.h X-BeenThere: cvs-all@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: CVS commit messages for the entire tree List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 20 Nov 2005 17:54:38 -0000 Mike Silbersack wrote: > > On Sat, 19 Nov 2005, Nate Lawson wrote: > >> Right, but such an approach won't work for storage drivers like >> isp(4). Couldn't you just generalize the approach used by ispfw(4)? >> It uses the kld module approach to get the firmware into kernel memory. >> >> -- >> Nate > > > For something like a network driver, preloading the firmware into a kld > is a waste of memory. The exception would be if you were to try > netbooting from a iwi card, but that seems unlikely to be a common problem. > > Until someone does come up with the official "FreeBSD" way to load > firmware, let's stop kibitzing about this commit and let Damien get back > to work. It's not a question of kibbitzing; there's been discussion about dealing with this issue with a general mechanism and not sticking individual solutions in drivers. Doing this would mean not having to answer the immediate followup questions like "what about ipw". Sam