From owner-freebsd-current Sun Jul 11 15:45:32 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk (nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk [193.237.89.66]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F18FE14F53 for ; Sun, 11 Jul 1999 15:45:28 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from nik@nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk) Received: (from nik@localhost) by nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk (8.9.3/8.9.2) id WAA32337; Sun, 11 Jul 1999 22:00:50 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from nik) Date: Sun, 11 Jul 1999 22:00:50 +0100 From: Nik Clayton To: "Daniel C. Sobral" Cc: Nicolas Blais , freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: HELP!!! -CURRENT libtool problem. Message-ID: <19990711220050.A31542@catkin.nothing-going-on.org> References: <37810FDD.C1321FE7@videotron.ca> <37887C61.2F462FD@newsguy.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.95.4i In-Reply-To: <37887C61.2F462FD@newsguy.com>; from Daniel C. Sobral on Sun, Jul 11, 1999 at 08:13:37PM +0900 Organization: Nik at home, where there's nothing going on Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Sun, Jul 11, 1999 at 08:13:37PM +0900, Daniel C. Sobral wrote: [snip] > "Q: Why shouldn't I just go ahead and run -current? That's got > all the latest stuff, right? [snip] > If you can live with that, and think you have any compelling reason > to run -current, read the handbook for further instructions. > > Sorry if this seems too harsh, but many people are just not used to > the concept of a development tree available publicly, and think of > it as the "latest version". It is *not* the latest version. When it > is *ready*, it will be the latest version. Until then... read the > above." > > Any other question? Q: I want to use this cool piece of software that's in the FreeBSD ports system. But I can't build it on my 3.x-stable system. Why not? A: Ah, sorry. The ports system only targets -current, trying to get it to work with -stable is too much work. If you want to be sure of using the ports system successfully you need to be running -current. Or was this policy reversed recently and I didn't notice (always a likely possibility). [ And yes, I *know* the ports system relies on volunteers, and that if people can't be bothered to test their ports on a -stable system then there's not a lot we can do about it. But this does lead to the amusing situation (for various values of "amusing") where on one hand we're telling people not to use -current unless they really know what they're doing, but on the other hand we're (in some cases) preventing them from using a major piece of FreeBSD infrastructure which is expressly designed to make life easier for exactly the sort of people who should be running -stable. ] N -- [intentional self-reference] can be easily accommodated using a blessed, non-self-referential dummy head-node whose own object destructor severs the links. -- Tom Christiansen in <375143b5@cs.colorado.edu> To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message