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Date:      Sun, 11 Jul 1999 22:00:50 +0100
From:      Nik Clayton <nik@nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk>
To:        "Daniel C. Sobral" <dcs@newsguy.com>
Cc:        Nicolas Blais <nicblais@videotron.ca>, freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG
Subject:   Re: HELP!!! -CURRENT libtool problem.
Message-ID:  <19990711220050.A31542@catkin.nothing-going-on.org>
In-Reply-To: <37887C61.2F462FD@newsguy.com>; from Daniel C. Sobral on Sun, Jul 11, 1999 at 08:13:37PM %2B0900
References:  <37810FDD.C1321FE7@videotron.ca> <37887C61.2F462FD@newsguy.com>

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On Sun, Jul 11, 1999 at 08:13:37PM +0900, Daniel C. Sobral wrote:

[snip]

> "Q: Why shouldn't I just go ahead and run -current?  That's got
> all the latest stuff, right?

[snip]
 
> If you can live with that, and think you have any compelling reason
> to run -current, read the handbook for further instructions.
> 
> Sorry if this seems too harsh, but many people are just not used to
> the concept of a development tree available publicly, and think of
> it as the "latest version". It is *not* the latest version. When it
> is *ready*, it will be the latest version. Until then... read the
> above."
> 
> Any other question?

Q:  I want to use this cool piece of software that's in the FreeBSD 
    ports system.  But I can't build it on my 3.x-stable system.

    Why not?

A:  Ah, sorry.  The ports system only targets -current, trying to get
    it to work with -stable is too much work.  If you want to be sure
    of using the ports system successfully you need to be running
    -current.
</advocate>

Or was this policy reversed recently and I didn't notice (always a 
likely possibility).

[ And yes, I *know* the ports system relies on volunteers, and that if
  people can't be bothered to test their ports on a -stable system then
  there's not a lot we can do about it.  But this does lead to the 
  amusing situation (for various values of "amusing") where on one hand
  we're telling people not to use -current unless they really know what
  they're doing, but on the other hand we're (in some cases) preventing
  them from using a major piece of FreeBSD infrastructure which is 
  expressly designed to make life easier for exactly the sort of people
  who should be running -stable. ]

N
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