From owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Dec 23 20:18:03 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 27AF916A4CE for ; Thu, 23 Dec 2004 20:18:03 +0000 (GMT) Received: from rproxy.gmail.com (rproxy.gmail.com [64.233.170.206]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C28BB43D2F for ; Thu, 23 Dec 2004 20:18:02 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from gianluca@gmail.com) Received: by rproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id c16so196015rne for ; Thu, 23 Dec 2004 12:18:02 -0800 (PST) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:references; b=rEI7T5Fxj0d3Keh9OKhhZaTvCHWyCc2AkvSyJt2XfbHcVRn7KrmzOhd3vlzUHsk8nKmnWceYQmqZjkbX4qMQkilSqJvLEhL7zswinif9OplCQgOd1A1WUULOapBsdKP8SzV5MDYe87lKBxsZNzz1vp3BOmbWfT1tWN/bwJ6VsYU= Received: by 10.38.152.45 with SMTP id z45mr175298rnd; Thu, 23 Dec 2004 12:18:01 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.38.74.37 with HTTP; Thu, 23 Dec 2004 12:18:01 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: Date: Thu, 23 Dec 2004 12:18:01 -0800 From: Gianluca To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <41CB1C0C.70804@daleco.biz> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit References: <20041223063731.GW53357@wantadilla.lemis.com> <41CB1C0C.70804@daleco.biz> Subject: Re: Time to shut down this list? X-BeenThere: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: ghost@kzsu.org List-Id: Gathering place for new users List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 23 Dec 2004 20:18:03 -0000 Hello, as a freebsd newbie myself, I'm a little ambivalent about the list and the overall attitude towards really FAQ-type questions. no matter how many helpful (and knowledgeable) people might monitor this list and answer every question, RTFM (not in such a rude way) is a necessary answer in the OSS world: if you're installing freebsd and get intimidated by the tcsh prompt, there's something intrinsically wrong that no number of helpful answers will correct. I did choose freebsd over the other free *nixes for my impression of better documentation and community support, but especially because there's already an awesome piece of documentation like the handbook, questions that are really too basic are just adding to the background noise. what I'd really like/need as a newbie are more tutorials in the style of samba's how-to, i.e. walkthroughs for selected scenarios that are representative of real-world use of the OS. stuff like what the freebsddiary provides, but much more and more oriented to newbies/home users that are probably coming from windows. I'm thinking for example of common things like setting up a home firewall, or a simple file server (maybe with RAID which is what I'm struggling w/ right now) with recommendations all the way from the hardware ("if you're buying new, X is more supported than Y" is something I'd really like to see explicitly more often) to installation, configuration and maintenance. having said that I wouldn't want to see newbies- go though :) g.