From nobody Tue Aug 4 10:26:05 2026 X-Original-To: x11@mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4hDqT02h5Cz6myl9 for ; Tue, 04 Aug 2026 10:26:12 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from des@freebsd.org) Received: from smtp.freebsd.org (smtp.freebsd.org [96.47.72.83]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) server-digest SHA256 client-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) client-digest SHA256) (Client CN "smtp.freebsd.org", Issuer "YR1" (not verified)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4hDqSz6cVhz3cHM; Tue, 04 Aug 2026 10:26:11 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from des@freebsd.org) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=freebsd.org; s=dkim; t=1785839171; h=from:from:reply-to:subject:subject:date:date:message-id:message-id: to:to:cc:cc:mime-version:mime-version:content-type:content-type: content-transfer-encoding:content-transfer-encoding: in-reply-to:in-reply-to:references:references; bh=9Br09H1Ia8JcVUr+Y1JmcI8+uTEpIW1VdvAs1/0v8pw=; b=VxKd9jokR/Dd89HYH6KEbO0yDRL4zx/Sl6E9XnhtJCkzuquSG8AtoYjixwx3ymQeM5PjT4 pA1tGzoy3oz339rZ4vtNAhzIlfj+5s5xHxDQMB6gBEcqWCZZOccW0SZFOIg3vb4ekyToA7 dOIijf86uFgli9DDKVkHQIvjnY+oAE0Hs2kb2BgUHKKq9aWzSL1iEkURwxY6EUyT6Lc9GA HDLeUw+p7C/CxCItKB1acUwv5EjGjW9zTEe88feWz1HbkV1bcOBJlW0lyQot4/U+Sr/8XY gt2Ezkjh3GkpGeeiVkS2/hre4hDEpaBe+V6BBcZLACCbw0yJwt6kQ+Zyh33sug== ARC-Seal: i=1; s=dkim; d=freebsd.org; t=1785839171; a=rsa-sha256; cv=none; b=xgb2zRQyfIPk3PyElmDtcAwMgqtNnj3Jv4lm5OaimKoEN4OjUiXa6QL6jBTvPslZAjoaHm d2BlwzUVTyiYpSuKMhR1xiCX/nFGPrwBW57sCDteA4ZJuzI+Ppgb/TpquIGNsr/yrLWkTm xHGDVVpkAHxBAwMT65+azSgplOndsFFt54NfE4xQIxwCYtLFZKmN/s8CRxLYdAT9NG48NA wsz7E14g4T8oWbJnt8Ul8WzYR3+QU6stVIFF6NPL4oTiFEj3FENp5mnoo5u2aIrrdOFu8+ s3pc4TpHvUUh6w0EW7JHb1J7L7BKo0t/AUvppcW3LSt1jxzySd1UJSDonmovww== ARC-Authentication-Results: i=1; mx1.freebsd.org; none ARC-Message-Signature: i=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=freebsd.org; s=dkim; t=1785839171; h=from:from:reply-to:subject:subject:date:date:message-id:message-id: to:to:cc:cc:mime-version:mime-version:content-type:content-type: content-transfer-encoding:content-transfer-encoding: in-reply-to:in-reply-to:references:references; bh=9Br09H1Ia8JcVUr+Y1JmcI8+uTEpIW1VdvAs1/0v8pw=; b=cuQu4Mu24IVKYQu/iUEswHS5Gzsl5F7LTeHAZcmxabHaMjRTZa4De9a0qGbqpI6s3ouHJI NeaVZyV/QXmt2NfGOWIYUM03cJBIBg6XZxTJH5mGqNniZiK5eWa340nldRBtWCiWj0mRgQ fR9y+1YuXRTgYDkqqrDMh8K5z0Ubp1W8eSrz7vp5ftQ24fib/BO2EHPJaNzvSK4qAKcdX6 3Sci19NduEi64LRnrtVucWejAyNgoUUG7yr4V42o2bFYxATN8gy+vQ2l5pZ2KgJYQztUJE QzJitT1AWH2LqvClxL5HPU5X2bbIigGaf0N4YCXaHqlTfOnvuJF5Zz669mDSCg== Received: from ltc.des.dev (2a01cb0585070b00922e16fffef1acef.ipv6.abo.wanadoo.fr [IPv6:2a01:cb05:8507:b00:922e:16ff:fef1:acef]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) server-digest SHA256) (Client did not present a certificate) (Authenticated sender: des/mail) by smtp.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 4hDqSz4ZHtzt8L; Tue, 04 Aug 2026 10:26:11 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from des@freebsd.org) Received: by ltc.des.dev (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 4EFF8F809B; Tue, 04 Aug 2026 12:26:05 +0200 (CEST) From: =?utf-8?Q?Dag-Erling_Sm=C3=B8rgrav?= To: Gleb Popov Cc: x11@freebsd.org Subject: Re: X.org works on <= 14.3, unusable on >= 14.4 In-Reply-To: (Gleb Popov's message of "Mon, 3 Aug 2026 22:57:55 +0300") References: <86y0en9gpa.fsf@ltc.des.dev> <86qzkf9fox.fsf@ltc.des.dev> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Date: Tue, 04 Aug 2026 12:26:05 +0200 Message-ID: <86bjbi9o76.fsf@ltc.des.dev> List-Id: X11 List-Archive: https://lists.freebsd.org/archives/freebsd-x11 List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-BeenThere: freebsd-x11@freebsd.org Sender: owner-freebsd-x11@FreeBSD.org List-Id: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: List-Owner: Precedence: list MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Gleb Popov writes: > A couple of things more: > > * Your user should be in the "video" group. irrelevant > * What's inside your graphical session? Plasma, GNOME, something > simple? mate > * How do you enter the graphical session? Some kind of display manager > or "startx"? slim > If you're using KDE Plasma, let's try following: > > echo xterm > ~/.xinitrc > startx No, why? The only variable here is the kernel. A 14.3 kernel works great, a 14.4 kernel with the exact same 14.3 world and packages and the exact same configuration does not. DES --=20 Dag-Erling Sm=C3=B8rgrav - des@FreeBSD.org