From owner-freebsd-newbies Tue Jun 23 19:51:41 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id TAA05864 for freebsd-newbies-outgoing; Tue, 23 Jun 1998 19:51:41 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from mx.serv.net (mx.serv.net [205.153.153.234]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id TAA05852 for ; Tue, 23 Jun 1998 19:51:35 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from fewtch@serv.net) Received: from desktop-pentium (dialup618.serv.net [207.207.65.18]) by mx.serv.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id TAA08731; Tue, 23 Jun 1998 19:51:39 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <3.0.5.32.19980623195124.008076a0@mx.serv.net> X-Sender: fewtch@mx.serv.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0.5 (32) Date: Tue, 23 Jun 1998 19:51:24 -0700 To: Zach Heilig From: Tim Gerchmez Subject: Re: Fave Window Manager... found it. Cc: freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG In-Reply-To: <19980623212743.A10294@znh.org.> References: <3.0.5.32.19980623181159.007f6100@mx.serv.net> <3.0.5.32.19980623181159.007f6100@mx.serv.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org I'm not familiar with twm, I don't even know if I tried it or not. There are a lot of window managers out there... I think the thing that attracts people to KDE is that it comes with all kinds of extra utilities and goodies that the others don't. But the more window managers I try, the more alike all of them seem to me, except for "on the face"... and even there, they are a lot of similarities. The thing I like about fvwm2 is that you don't need to mess much with icons (see below) and can set up pop-up menus instead (extremely easy to configure in .fvwm2rc), which I greatly prefer to keeping track of icons for everything. One problem with X in general I've found is locating pixmaps/icons for all your apps and getting all the paths straight... I have pixmaps stored all over my hard drive in various locations. Something needs to be done about this in a future release of X... some kind of central pixmap/icon repository or something - it could get out of hand with having 40 or 50 different directories containing pixmaps and other icons scattered all over the place. Anyway, I'm CC'ing this to the list, I hope you don't mind. You sent it directly to me but I didn't see anything personal in it. At 09:27 PM 6/23/98 -0500, Zach Heilig wrote: >On Tue, Jun 23, 1998 at 06:11:59PM -0700, Tim Gerchmez wrote: >> isn't bad, but why use a fake imitation of Win95... and KDE was completely >> beyond me (I couldn't even get it up and running except for a brief flash >> of the desktop followed by being kicked back out of X)...so fvwm2 it is >> until I graduate from newbie to intermediate status anyway. > >KDE has some big problems setting up. What helped me a lot was realizing it >put error messages in the file '~/.xsession-errors'. > >I still did not like it very much after getting it to work. I finally settled >back on twm. It comes with X, and I already had menus set up I've been using >for several years. And, it doesn't cover the desktop with useless clutter. > >There are some programs that need to be run in ~/.xinitrc (or ~/.xsession-- I >forget which kde uses) to make kde work right. -- My web site starts at http://www.serv.net/~fewtch/index.html - lots of goodies for everyone, have a look if you have the time. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message