From owner-freebsd-current@freebsd.org Sun Nov 11 17:55:22 2018 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-current@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7B89A110CAF9 for ; Sun, 11 Nov 2018 17:55:22 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from greg@unrelenting.technology) Received: from out.migadu.com (out.migadu.com [91.121.223.63]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.migadu.com", Issuer "Let's Encrypt Authority X3" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 0BA318A90F for ; Sun, 11 Nov 2018 17:55:20 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from greg@unrelenting.technology) Received: (Migadu outbound); Sun, 11 Nov 2018 17:54:07 +0000 Authentication-Results: out.migadu.com; auth=pass (plain) Received: from [192.168.1.141] ([62.122.208.146]) by out.migadu.com (Haraka/2.8.16) with ESMTPSA id 2E767161-9663-439A-8966-066D4D98CF9D.1 envelope-from (authenticated bits=0) (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 verify=FAIL); Sun, 11 Nov 2018 17:54:07 +0000 Date: Sun, 11 Nov 2018 20:54:07 +0300 From: Greg V Subject: Re: Graphics open-source-friendliness, AMD Ryzen vs. Intel To: Thomas Mueller Cc: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Message-Id: <1541958847.1699.1@smtp.migadu.com> In-Reply-To: <188F89D2-16A1-4483-AD38-CD346C1BBE0D.1@aspmx1.migadu.com> References: <188F89D2-16A1-4483-AD38-CD346C1BBE0D.1@aspmx1.migadu.com> X-Mailer: geary/0.12.4 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; bh=z9uZAvfzmqcNPgXiGIilooOiwiTsT+rdSwIAUS8w0+E=; c=relaxed/simple; d=unrelenting.technology; h=from:subject:date:to; s=default; b=Xp5FLje/hInA+4Vv+7D1Qe8sFlzrHI3JLJq1e6v62HrNZUuaYK9lMc6LXiyI9HgGCL+j6R7u7lvEIhvRFQJybq6tRO5k1HT5wCKhBS0TdFfyC3oxV2PjSxF2qiNaKEEVwBBSRctW2AlUdIQoPHK9vxYAViJDl4kGWH805KodVAA= X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 0BA318A90F X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-2.63 / 200.00]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; RCVD_VIA_SMTP_AUTH(0.00)[]; R_DKIM_ALLOW(-0.20)[unrelenting.technology]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-0.97)[-0.971,0]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; TO_DN_SOME(0.00)[]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+ip4:91.121.223.63]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-0.97)[-0.967,0]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; NEURAL_SPAM_SHORT(0.10)[0.103,0]; RCVD_COUNT_THREE(0.00)[3]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_SOME(0.00)[]; DKIM_TRACE(0.00)[unrelenting.technology:+]; RCPT_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2]; DMARC_POLICY_ALLOW(-0.50)[unrelenting.technology,none]; MX_GOOD(-0.01)[aspmx1.migadu.com,aspmx2.migadu.com]; FREEMAIL_TO(0.00)[twc.com]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; IP_SCORE(0.21)[ipnet: 91.121.0.0/16(1.39), asn: 16276(-0.30), country: FR(-0.02)]; ASN(0.00)[asn:16276, ipnet:91.121.0.0/16, country:FR]; RCVD_TLS_ALL(0.00)[] X-Rspamd-Server: mx1.freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-current@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussions about the use of FreeBSD-current List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 11 Nov 2018 17:55:22 -0000 On Sun, Nov 11, 2018 at 3:42 PM, Thomas Mueller wrote: > I may need to buy parts for a new computer because of malfunctions on > current motherboard and CPU (Intel Sandy Bridge dating to May 2011). > > Question is whether I am better off, regarding > open-source-friendliness of graphics chips for running Xorg, with AMD > Ryzen or the newer Intel chipsets. I know to avoid NVIDIA. Both are great for open source friendliness in general. Onboard Vega GPUs on the Ryzen APUs should work fine on FreeBSD with kms-drm 4.16. If you're looking for high performance though, don't get an APU, get an 8-core (R7 2700X/2700/1700X/1700) and a discrete GPU (Radeon RX 550/560/570/580 depending on how much you care about graphics performance). > I am inclined to run FreeBSD-current and build Xorg from FreeBSD > ports. > > When I boot into UEFI setup, I see the CPU temperature is or quickly > goes to 97 C and stays there. > > I tried replacing the thermal paste and installing a new case fan to > replace one that had quit, but CPU temperature still shows and stays > at 97 C. > > Now I have a replacement Arctic Cooler heatsink and fan on order to > replace the original Intel heatsink and fan whose connectors were > damaged in taking out and struggling to get back in. > > Currently, I boot into UEFI Setup, but after a couple minutes, the > computer powers off and then tries to power back on, then off again a > few seconds later, until I end the loop by turning off the power > supply switch. I can guess CPU overheating. Yeah, a new CPU cooler should help. > I could transplant the current hard drive (Seagate NAS 4 TB) to get a > quicker start software-wise. An SSD might provide a quicker start too ;)