From owner-freebsd-hackers Mon Apr 7 09:40:00 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id JAA22184 for hackers-outgoing; Mon, 7 Apr 1997 09:40:00 -0700 (PDT) Received: from genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au (genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au [129.127.96.120]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id JAA22175 for ; Mon, 7 Apr 1997 09:39:55 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from msmith@localhost) by genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au (8.8.5/8.7.3) id CAA09277; Tue, 8 Apr 1997 02:08:51 +0930 (CST) From: Michael Smith Message-Id: <199704071638.CAA09277@genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au> Subject: Re: on the subject of changes to -RELEASEs... In-Reply-To: <199704071600.JAA29934@phaeton.artisoft.com> from Terry Lambert at "Apr 7, 97 09:00:16 am" To: terry@lambert.org (Terry Lambert) Date: Tue, 8 Apr 1997 02:08:50 +0930 (CST) Cc: msmith@atrad.adelaide.edu.au, avalon@coombs.anu.edu.au, hackers@FreeBSD.ORG X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL28 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Terry Lambert stands accused of saying: > > > > > > > > * download Danny's 2.2.1 binary upgrade. > > > > > > Right. If a source code equivalent of this was available, it'd be perfect. > > > > See my other mail to you. I'm inclined to agree with you, and we > > should automate this while the motivation is still fresh. > > Bletch. > > You can't upgrade /etc reliably because the data and the implementation > aren't sufficiently seperate to let you safely stomp on a number of > files which need stomping in an upgrade. It *must* be a manual > operation until that is addressed. Crap. Whilst you can, certainly, devise a pathological case to justify your claims, the reality is that the sort of changes mooted will not, on the whole, mandate /etc/ changes, and the proposed service is worthwhile. Also note that the 'source-diff' plan doesn't have anything to do with /etc. If you have a beef with Danny's work, take it up with him. The scheme _is_ practical. You are being part of the problem; please desist 8) > Terry Lambert -- ]] Mike Smith, Software Engineer msmith@gsoft.com.au [[ ]] Genesis Software genesis@gsoft.com.au [[ ]] High-speed data acquisition and (GSM mobile) 0411-222-496 [[ ]] realtime instrument control. (ph) +61-8-8267-3493 [[ ]] Unix hardware collector. "Where are your PEZ?" The Tick [[