From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Tue May 29 16:48:38 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: stable@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 467CA16A400 for ; Tue, 29 May 2007 16:48:38 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from cperciva@freebsd.org) Received: from pd4mo1so.prod.shaw.ca (shawidc-mo1.cg.shawcable.net [24.71.223.10]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2404313C45A for ; Tue, 29 May 2007 16:48:37 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from cperciva@freebsd.org) Received: from pd2mr4so.prod.shaw.ca (pd2mr4so-qfe3.prod.shaw.ca [10.0.141.107]) by l-daemon (Sun ONE Messaging Server 6.0 HotFix 1.01 (built Mar 15 2004)) with ESMTP id <0JIT00L1F7M2TQ10@l-daemon> for stable@freebsd.org; Tue, 29 May 2007 09:42:04 -0600 (MDT) Received: from pn2ml8so.prod.shaw.ca ([10.0.121.152]) by pd2mr4so.prod.shaw.ca (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-7.05 (built Sep 5 2006)) with ESMTP id <0JIT000OF7M0WV51@pd2mr4so.prod.shaw.ca> for stable@freebsd.org; Tue, 29 May 2007 09:42:02 -0600 (MDT) Received: from hexahedron.daemonology.net ([24.82.18.31]) by l-daemon (Sun ONE Messaging Server 6.0 HotFix 1.01 (built Mar 15 2004)) with SMTP id <0JIT00IMX7LZPF10@l-daemon> for stable@freebsd.org; Tue, 29 May 2007 09:41:59 -0600 (MDT) Received: (qmail 19505 invoked from network); Tue, 29 May 2007 15:41:42 +0000 Received: from unknown (HELO hexahedron.daemonology.net) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; Tue, 29 May 2007 15:41:42 +0000 Date: Tue, 29 May 2007 08:41:41 -0700 From: Colin Percival In-reply-to: <465C4624.5020004@freebsd.org> To: "Bruce A. Mah" Message-id: <465C49B5.8080003@freebsd.org> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit X-Enigmail-Version: 0.95.0 References: <465BF62B.6090904@vwsoft.com> <20070529102929.GA49322@owl.midgard.homeip.net> <465C06CE.6000703@delphij.net> <465C4624.5020004@freebsd.org> User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.0 (X11/20070511) Cc: stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: release cycle X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 29 May 2007 16:48:38 -0000 Bruce A. Mah wrote: > We've done point releases in the past but only in cases where there were > severe problems and/or regressions with released versions. Look at the > announcements and release notes for 4.6.2-RELEASE and > 5.2.1-RELEASE...these were the two most recent instances where we did > this. There's a reason for this...it's a lot of effort. > > Folks should realize that making a new release (even a new point > release) is not just a matter of tagging the tree and typing "make > release". We (re@) need to figure out exactly what bugs are to be > fixed, get the changes merged and tested, build at least one release > candidate, get that tested, and finally build a set of RELEASE bits and > push them out. I point releases have been obsoleted by errata notices. In the past when X.Y.Z-RELEASE has happened, it has been because of critical bugs in the X.Y-RELEASE which there wasn't any other mechanism to fix. Now that we have errata noticed and FreeBSD Update is in the base system, it's vastly easier for users to run "freebsd-update fetch install" than it is for them to upgrade to a new release. > PS. This having been said I know there are some kernel fixes that were > candidates for errata against 6.2-RELEASE...I'm not sure what their > current state is. Don't ask me, I just approve the errata which you send to me. Which hasn't been anything at all lately. :-) Colin Percival