From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Apr 9 07:08:58 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8E7B5106566B for ; Mon, 9 Apr 2012 07:08:58 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-questions@herveybayaustralia.com.au) Received: from mail.unitedinsong.com.au (mail.unitedinsong.com.au [150.101.178.33]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3C9D68FC16 for ; Mon, 9 Apr 2012 07:08:58 +0000 (UTC) Received: from laptop1.herveybayaustralia.com.au (laptop1.herveybayaustralia.com.au [192.168.0.182]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-CAMELLIA256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mail.unitedinsong.com.au (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id BF3835C22 for ; Mon, 9 Apr 2012 17:22:33 +1000 (EST) Message-ID: <4F828B07.9000706@herveybayaustralia.com.au> Date: Mon, 09 Apr 2012 17:08:55 +1000 From: Da Rock User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:7.0.1) Gecko/20111109 Thunderbird/7.0.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <20120409080105.002d0aaf.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: <20120409080105.002d0aaf.freebsd@edvax.de> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: FreeBSD losing market share? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 09 Apr 2012 07:08:58 -0000 On 04/09/12 16:01, Polytropon wrote: > Tony, I'm always fascinated how people consider market share the > purpose of everyone and everything. FreeBSD is not a profit-oriented > company (it's not even a company in this regards), and you can > hardly _measure_ its market share. Hell, you can't even measure > its _usage share_! Unlike corporations with a certain income model > where unit sales can be counted, you cannot count them for FreeBSD > as anyone can download and install as many copies of it as he > likes. Due to the licensing model, derived works that are turned > into a closed-source project can even be attributed to a different > company (e. g. a FreeBSD-derived OS that is installed into an > embedded system acting as a firewall will sales_units++; for that > company, not for FreeBSD). You have _no_, I repeat>>>NO<<< means > to determine how many FreeBSD systems are currently up and running. > That would be usage share. Market share is a measuring model that > you can't even apply to FreeBSD in my opinion. > > > > On Sun, 8 Apr 2012 15:22:47 +0200, Tony wrote: >> Imagine how FreeBSD's market share and popularity would skyrocket once >> regular people gets access to it. > FreeBSD has no "market share", if you apply the term correctly, > as it is not part of "the market". And regular people already can access it. They can use it freely as much as they like and get free help to boot (though I hope they reciprocate in kind in some way). Unlike certain OS you have to actually pay for to use and pay to get help, such as a certain popular OS which supposedly has 90% market share and gives all a headache... ;) Community is a so much nicer term for this phenomena. > > >> Low-cost hosting definitely is the way of >> the future. > I'm not sure it is. Even by the means of "cloud computing" prices > are still rising (due to energy costs increasing), and only efficiency > is a way to chance this trend. Sadly, requirements to not follow this > approach, which makes things becoming more expensive in the future. > "Unlimited data" is also a thing that, in my opinion, will disappear > in the future. Lean and fast applications will have a renaissance. > > > >> Just look at how well low-cost >> airlinesare >> doing. > Are _currently_ doing, but they will sooner or later be out of fuel. > Fuel is becoming more expensive as the available amount is limited. > If you consider such things "on the long run", you will surely have > to admit that a short-time strategy ("being cheap right now") does > not pay. > > > >