From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Tue Sep 5 21:06:30 2017 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BDD10E1F461 for ; Tue, 5 Sep 2017 21:06:30 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mailrelay10.qsc.de (mailrelay10.qsc.de [212.99.163.152]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "*.antispameurope.com", Issuer "TeleSec ServerPass DE-2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id EBE6B685F1 for ; Tue, 5 Sep 2017 21:06:29 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mx01.qsc.de ([213.148.129.14]) by mailrelay10.qsc.de; Tue, 05 Sep 2017 23:06:27 +0200 Received: from r56.edvax.de (port-92-195-85-107.dynamic.qsc.de [92.195.85.107]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx01.qsc.de (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 50C873CBF9; Tue, 5 Sep 2017 23:06:26 +0200 (CEST) Received: from r56.edvax.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by r56.edvax.de (8.14.5/8.14.5) with SMTP id v85L6PbE002757; Tue, 5 Sep 2017 23:06:25 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Date: Tue, 5 Sep 2017 23:06:25 +0200 From: Polytropon To: FreeBSD Questions Cc: Adam Vande More , Ernie Luzar Subject: Re: Restoring sc console look and feel with vt Message-Id: <20170905230625.7a282985.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: <20170905225237.0276255a.freebsd@edvax.de> References: <20170905151245.f592508c.freebsd@edvax.de> <59AEAD20.8050006@gmail.com> <20170905201840.ae6b53ee.freebsd@edvax.de> <20170905204920.2b709f7a.freebsd@edvax.de> <20170905225237.0276255a.freebsd@edvax.de> Reply-To: Polytropon Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 3.1.1 (GTK+ 2.24.5; i386-portbld-freebsd8.2) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-cloud-security-sender: freebsd@edvax.de X-cloud-security-recipient: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-cloud-security-Virusscan: CLEAN X-cloud-security-disclaimer: This E-Mail was scanned by E-Mailservice on mailrelay10.qsc.de with 944FF683445 X-cloud-security-connect: mx01.qsc.de[213.148.129.14], TLS=1, IP=213.148.129.14 X-cloud-security: scantime:.1365 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 05 Sep 2017 21:06:30 -0000 On Tue, 5 Sep 2017 22:52:37 +0200, Polytropon wrote: > On Tue, 5 Sep 2017 14:13:04 -0500, Adam Vande More wrote: > > On Tue, Sep 5, 2017 at 1:49 PM, Polytropon wrote: > >=20 > > > I'll try to express better: > > > > > > When the system boots, the screen uses 80x25 characters. The > > > character size depends on the screen size of course. With sc, > > > I get "big letters" on a 21" CRT, as intended. > > > > > > When booting with vt, the system starts booting with the 80x25 > > > mode, then switches to a font where I'd say the screen has > > > 160x100 characters (just a guess, I didn't count them actually). > > > Those are "small letters", even on a 21" CRT, too small for me > > > to be read conveniently. > > > > > > So what I need is a way to tell vt to display 80x25 characters > > > that "scale up", and generally make them look like the regular > > > sc text mode. > > > > > > > > > > > > > For the former, removing the previous advice from loader.conf would= be > > > the > > > > first step. Then you should be able to find an acceptable setting > > > > experimenting with vidcontrol eg resolution/fonts. > > > > > > With vidcontrol, I only get error messages. I think it ie tied > > > to sc? I also have no idea what font names to try... > > > > >=20 > > Does your video hw requite kms?=20 >=20 > Which one doesn't? ;-) >=20 >=20 >=20 > > If so, when is it loaded? It should > > loaded from loader.conf, not later. >=20 > Yes, I have those entries in /boot/loader.conf: >=20 > kern.vty=3Dvt > hw.vga.textmode=3D1 > i915kms_load=3D"YES" >=20 > The system has an on-board Intel GPU. The system boots with the > normal ("native") 80x25, then clears the screen upon kernel load, > continues for a short while in that mode, still 80x25, then lets > the screen flicker, and finally run at 133x52 (counted "manually") > which isn't sufficiently readable for me anymore. The mouse cursor > is even harder to spot... >=20 > But as I said, without vt + KMS, X doesn't work anymore. We seem > to live in modern times. ;-) >=20 >=20 >=20 > > You may need to explicitly define: > >=20 > > hw.vga.textmode=3D0 > >=20 > > You can load fonts with: > >=20 > > vidcontrol -f > >=20 > > Fonts should be located in: > >=20 > > /usr/share/vt/fonts/ >=20 > Thanks for the pointer, I will try this now and report back about > the results. The results: With the configuration change, I can now select the fonts. While "gallant" seems to be the default font (no change if selected after system boots), the vgarom-* fonts are even worse. They seem to be made for ants. :-) I cannot get a "smaller" screen than 132x54 (now verified). I don't care if the letters aren't "pixel-perfect", but they need to be bigger. Is there an option to tell the system to "scale up" the font (so only 80x25 will fit)? The normal 80x25 text mode is something I'm really going to miss, and the change sc -> vt is causing me pain. In my eyes. I'd like to change everything back to sc, but that doesn't seem to be a possible way (causes X to stop working). And I haven't started yet to complain that I cannot use german =F6 =E4 =FC =D6 =C4 =DC and =DF anymore... Any further ideas what to try? --=20 Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ...