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Date:      Wed, 27 Jan 2016 15:04:56 +0100
From:      John Marino <freebsd.contact@marino.st>
To:        Mathieu Arnold <mat@FreeBSD.org>, marino@freebsd.org, Erwin Lansing <erwin@FreeBSD.org>, Bryan Drewery <bdrewery@FreeBSD.org>
Cc:        ports-committers@freebsd.org, svn-ports-all@freebsd.org, svn-ports-head@freebsd.org
Subject:   Re: svn commit: r407270 - head/ports-mgmt/portmaster
Message-ID:  <56A8CE88.3040702@marino.st>
In-Reply-To: <04661B677FE921A27AEB06FE@ogg.in.absolight.net>
References:  <201601261123.u0QBNcvL091258@repo.freebsd.org> <56A80CFF.7070900@FreeBSD.org> <20160127080158.GR87372@droso.dk> <56A88003.5020709@marino.st> <04661B677FE921A27AEB06FE@ogg.in.absolight.net>

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On 1/27/2016 2:53 PM, Mathieu Arnold wrote:
> +--On 27 janvier 2016 09:29:55 +0100 John Marino
> 
> https://www.freebsd.org/doc/en/articles/committers-guide/rules.html
> 
> 5. Any disputed change must be backed out pending resolution of the dispute
> if requested by a maintainer. Security related changes may override a
> maintainer's wishes at the Security Officer's discretion.
> 

Okay, let's play lawyer then.

"request by a maintainer".

That literally applies to every unique email defined in MAINTAINER= on
nearly 26,000 ports.  So that means anybody that has a single port they
are listed as a maintainer on can "dispute" any change to any port,
whether it affects them or not, and item 5 means the commit *has* to
comply, no matter how unreasonable the request is.

That is a HORRIBLY worded item.  That can't possibly be the intent.

And assuming that's not the intent, then #5 doesn't apply.  And
"ports@freebsd.org" is not a real maintainer, so that doesn't count.

I refuse to back this out until the port is maintained BY A COMPETENT
PERSON.  portmgr is free to back it out at my publicly recorded
objection.  This is hurting nothing and nobody, so it should stay until
a plan for portmaster is put in place.

IMPACT OF NOT CHANGING: ZERO
IMPACT OF CHANGING WITH NO FORWARD PLAN: UNACCEPTABLE STATUS QUO AND
DAMAGE TO UNSUSPECTING USERS THAT THINK PORTMASTER IS IN GOOD SHAPE

feel free to exercise portmgr powers and revert it even though "dispute"
could be resolved without reverting it.




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